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Sorry for the multiple posts. Not quite with it today.

Here's another idea. We now know the injectors are working -- but all four?
If only secondary injectors work then engine will die.
Not sure how easy it is for you to get to injector connections, but you 
try to disconnect all but one at a time (in test mode) to make sure each 
of the four actually work.

Finn

On 1/10/2026 12:07 PM, Doug Lomheim rv9flyer13b@gmail.com wrote:
> Finn:  Thanks so much for these additional steps to try!
>
> Looks like we can rule out “0, 3, 4” (?) since the injectors click 
> away and the leading and trailing plugs fire up nicely?
>
> Can’t we also rule out “1” (Injector drivers) since the injectors 
> operated nicely in Mode 0 when “priming”?
>
> Also, does this rule out a possible CAS issue…maybe the CAS circuit 
>  is somehow used in firing the plugs at “3,000 rpm” in mode 8?
>
> Doug
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> Would be interesting to know which part of the A controller failed.
> 0) 5V power regulator
> 1) Injector drivers
> 2) Ignition coil drivers
> 3) Crank angle sensor input.
> 4)  MCU itself.
>
> Do the injectors click when you press the Store button or when you put 
> it into injector test mode?
> Do the spark plugs fire when you put it into test mode?
> If either of those work we can rule out 0, 3 and 4.
>
> As for compatibility, the main difference between 13B and Renesis is 
> the crank angle sensor output. The 13B has magnetic pickups and the 
> Renesis has a timing wheel, so you can't switch them without 
> reprogramming.
> Then there is dwell time -- depends on iginition coils you use.
> I suspect that other differences can be handled by tuning.
>
> Finn
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>
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>> On Jan 9, 2026, at 4:59 PM, DOUGLAS LOMHEIM <dlomheim@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> My Renesis “A” processor went INOP a few weeks ago, and I’ve done the 
>> following:  a). Verified 12 V to BOTH EC2 power pins.  b).  Verified 
>> continuity from OAT two wire thermistor to EC2.  c).  Replaced 
>> thermister with the one on my 9A project.  d).  Opened the EC2 to 
>> ensure the micro processor was still seated in its’ socket.
>> The “A” side is still not functioning, and must be started on the “B” 
>> side, and when switched to “A”, it immediately dies.
>>
>> Are there any other trouble-shooting steps I should try?
>>
>> Thx.  Doug
>>
>> P.S.  I believe Tracy did some special EC2 processing on  Renesis EC 
>> 2s, vs RX-7 13B?  I think I have two extra EC2s, so could swap them 
>> out IF they are compatible with each other…
>>
>> Thx for your inputs, Doug
>> Sent from my iPhone
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Sorry for the multiple posts. Not quite
      with it today.</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Here's another idea. We now know the
      injectors are working -- but all four?</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">If only secondary injectors work then
      engine will die.</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Not sure how easy it is for you to get
      to injector connections, but you try to disconnect all but one at
      a time (in test mode) to make sure each of the four actually work.</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/10/2026 12:07 PM, Doug Lomheim
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      <div><font size="5">Finn:  Thanks so much for these additional
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      <div><font size="5">Looks like we can rule out “0, 3, 4” (?) since
          the injectors click away and the leading and trailing plugs
          fire up nicely?</font></div>
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      <div><font size="5">Can’t we also rule out “1” (Injector drivers)
          since the injectors operated nicely in Mode 0 when “priming”?
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      <div><font size="5">Also, does this rule out a possible CAS
          issue…maybe the CAS circuit  is somehow used in firing the
          plugs at “3,000 rpm” in mode 8?</font></div>
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                    class="letterText" style="font-size: 10pt;">Would be
                    interesting to know which part of the A controller
                    failed.<br>
                    0) 5V power regulator<br>
                    1) Injector drivers<br>
                    2) Ignition coil drivers<br>
                    3) Crank angle sensor input.<br>
                    4)  MCU itself.<br>
                    <br>
                    Do the injectors click when you press the Store
                    button or when you put it into injector test mode?<br>
                    Do the spark plugs fire when you put it into test
                    mode?<br>
                    If either of those work we can rule out 0, 3 and 4.<br>
                    <br>
                    As for compatibility, the main difference between
                    13B and Renesis is the crank angle sensor output.
                    The 13B has magnetic pickups and the Renesis has a
                    timing wheel, so you can't switch them without
                    reprogramming.<br>
                    Then there is dwell time -- depends on iginition
                    coils you use.<br>
                    I suspect that other differences can be handled by
                    tuning.<br>
                    <br>
                    Finn</tt></div>
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          <div>On Jan 9, 2026, at 4:59 PM, DOUGLAS LOMHEIM
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            <div>My Renesis “A” processor went INOP a few weeks ago, and
              I’ve done the following:  a). Verified 12 V to BOTH EC2
              power pins.  b).  Verified continuity from OAT two wire
              thermistor to EC2.  c).  Replaced thermister with the one
              on my 9A project.  d).  Opened the EC2 to ensure the micro
              processor was still seated in its’ socket.  <br>
              The “A” side is still not functioning, and must be started
              on the “B” side, and when switched to “A”, it immediately
              dies.   <br>
              <br>
              Are there any other trouble-shooting steps I should try?<br>
              <br>
              Thx.  Doug <br>
              <br>
              P.S.  I believe Tracy did some special EC2 processing on
               Renesis EC 2s, vs RX-7 13B?  I think I have two extra
              EC2s, so could swap them out IF they are compatible with
              each other…<br>
              <br>
              Thx for your inputs, Doug<br>
              Sent from my iPhone</div>
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