X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "GEORGE PUTNAM" Received: from pv38p43im-ztdg05071201.me.com ([17.133.183.8] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.14) with ESMTPS id 9341777 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 05 Jan 2017 12:57:41 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=17.133.183.8; envelope-from=georgeputnam@me.com Received: from process-dkim-sign-daemon.pv38p43im-ztdg05071201.me.com by pv38p43im-ztdg05071201.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.38.0 64bit (built Feb 26 2016)) id <0OJB00K00IXZND00@pv38p43im-ztdg05071201.me.com> for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 05 Jan 2017 17:57:22 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=me.com; s=4d515a; t=1483639042; bh=2TKywIi/EsG1kM5wDHNBboYuTxUgib0tTGimJaCSmHI=; h=From:Content-type:MIME-version:Subject:Date:To:Message-id; b=mTRFQKVv5kIiVc42TxEz/oW/42KjNlccmZCr2kxl70+RAPXSV+zZ5g3AcblKZ6P6T 1/UO4oxJ2slwX0mR8du0W3iVhCFyGstpRBRK2ux6KS0TsRGNySdgcSdQVWsAk0xM5I PiqIcyeIS4JwRLcLiUYzhRrPDPfEM97AW5rjYI3tOZTIPdw380cb8eJJKT/LLF5Fuz NDJTHUe73U6EyrGvGqZ5eyZi/ioBqWxjp2zlhVJXTBxw1ucVZTZHPgKpqJ5KcM5LYk yvBjyyoPk51Jo0ElWB/WLIZwbJxeZ7cDzWF/BX/NIifD06e+ksywG8RXfCSwVKzzrD sduoH0Hau2i2A== Received: from [10.0.1.25] (14-154-58-66.gci.net [66.58.154.14]) by pv38p43im-ztdg05071201.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.38.0 64bit (built Feb 26 2016)) with ESMTPSA id <0OJB007RIJ7L7K30@pv38p43im-ztdg05071201.me.com> for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 05 Jan 2017 17:57:22 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2017-01-05_12:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1034 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1603290000 definitions=main-1701050268 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6A77721C-D2A8-4580-94BE-0BE272FC4F4E" MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.1 \(3251\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Not rotary....but still interesting Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2017 08:57:20 -0900 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-reply-to: Message-id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3251) --Apple-Mail=_6A77721C-D2A8-4580-94BE-0BE272FC4F4E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Ernest, Since I have the Dyke in the shop and a =E2=80=98new=E2=80=99 Renesis=E2=80= =99 sitting right by it, time for me to seriously consider all the new = things.=20 George > On Jan 4, 2017, at 8:13 PM, Ernest Christley = wrote: >=20 > Plugs up would allow the intake runners to be longer, get the exhaust = heat out quicker and make for a cleaner installation. > I would put the second water cooler in the right strake instead of the = oil cooler. Run the water from the engine to the left cooler, under the = cockpit to the the right and back to the engine. Cabin heat would be = picked up from both sides aft of the water coolers. > The oil cooler would be strung under the engine. The way I placed the = cooler in the engine compartment cause the exit air to swirl around = under the cowl instead of exiting cleanly, requiring an air dam to = re-direct it out the bottom. =20 > I'd make another/cleaner iteration of the blower shroud. > Finally, given the electrical dependency, I would have adapted a = second, in-line, Harley-Davidson generator to the other side of the = engine. >=20 > My fiance and I are discussing building an Zenith CH640. If it = happens, I'll be back in the rotary game. It'll be plugs up, but the = radiators will all have to be up front. I would still use the electric = water pump, Harley generators, and Corvair blower. >=20 >=20 > On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 9:55 PM, GEORGE PUTNAM = wrote: >=20 >=20 > Great to see your posts on the forum, Ernest. Curious. What would you = do differently today if you were building the rotary for the Dyke?! > Best Regards, > George Putnam >> On Jan 3, 2017, at 5:55 PM, Ernest Christley = > = wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Well, that was inspirational. I have the descent rate. I have the = forward speed. I can easily calculate the best glide and climb angles = from that. Thanks, James. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_6A77721C-D2A8-4580-94BE-0BE272FC4F4E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Ernest,
Since I have the Dyke in the shop and = a =E2=80=98new=E2=80=99 Renesis=E2=80=99 sitting right by it, time for = me to seriously consider all the new things. 
George
On Jan 4, 2017, at 8:13 PM, Ernest Christley = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Plugs up would = allow the intake runners to be longer, get the exhaust heat out quicker = and make for a cleaner installation.
I would put the = second water cooler in the right strake instead of the oil cooler.  = Run the water from the engine to the left cooler, under the cockpit to = the the right and back to the engine. Cabin heat would be picked up from = both sides aft of the water coolers.
The = oil cooler would be strung under the engine.  The way I placed the = cooler in the engine compartment cause the exit air to swirl around = under the cowl instead of exiting cleanly, requiring an air dam to = re-direct it out the bottom. 
I'd = make another/cleaner iteration of the blower shroud.
Finally, given the electrical dependency, I would = have adapted a second, in-line, Harley-Davidson generator to the other = side of the engine.

My fiance and I = are discussing building an Zenith CH640.  If it happens, I'll be = back in the rotary game.  It'll be plugs up, but the radiators will = all have to be up front.  I would still use the electric water = pump, Harley generators, and Corvair blower.


On Wednesday, = January 4, 2017 9:55 PM, GEORGE PUTNAM <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:


Great to see your posts on the forum, Ernest. Curious. What = would you do differently today if you were building the rotary for the = Dyke?!
Best Regards,
George Putnam
On Jan 3, 2017, at 5:55 PM, Ernest Christley = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> = wrote:



Well, that was inspirational.  I have the = descent rate.  I have the forward speed.  I can easily = calculate the best glide and climb angles from that.  Thanks, = James.






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