X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "William Jepson" Received: from mail-vk0-f41.google.com ([209.85.213.41] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.12) with ESMTPS id 9049348 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 17:34:31 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.213.41; envelope-from=wrjjrs@gmail.com Received: by mail-vk0-f41.google.com with SMTP id q126so45612741vkd.2 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 14:34:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=YYbipWTGPhsPk7l/RLxKnXCUodIvNbu7oYH/KRVdqk4=; b=xnJQv6cON4kXaAAU0TUmnkU/AsgXQrWbwNtpQ/ahAvMNr5xXY1/6mr11h3JerC6Iba 72qZO9rwr7IkBXyDc/W22001DHf3h3Gt35aXxuFm+UgXz/RubIOTD3mWkUbSp1kDomc5 fTrOK/SUiJFIGQ4EeddsyNhsZchJEgV66rY+6cs6f/CsmeR8JVLt2YwkwdoiOI4yiw9l L5aaAVLGeNm96ESRMvEz9+YyRId+KMYG6i01Y/WuMU3g05xYXpxHyevbk43Fzc4HWSbO RUmWObc7ch82ZJA2QC9ZpX1z9u1g3gD7TqLIvK6WPO3RpNqQ5f5K3SkbceLO/lDXvqBa AYkw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=YYbipWTGPhsPk7l/RLxKnXCUodIvNbu7oYH/KRVdqk4=; b=HjbeaNtPzXILvkaseQD4t6tNekrOeS4704NuM6oX9gWMcnY1Xy8DR2LuNjZncINlaa 2Ye0uWX0Dacg29RYQR9LGDaSY0e5sx+6DmlcX5k8DKbzJzUimSv54TZzRbN8THpXmEWE QqRFxZZjdxL4Il/cUHx10UYYSryFda/U334l4YgTFrGu41iT7WTL3glc7BJP2ym0XnTs /ULq+Iges7dpryUixl4wtnCZfE1q+EgqpiSw65MCS0L5MtNL/j48YV/cstdfLQ7qaMZF 4L1bGWyqVAITiWK2IA0K/zVrLNX0y4ddha7Me9h+o7rZnYK737hbCnxDoBFt4PLJ3TPU +cpw== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RnGmrNssddCjPMUEO0BBy/+5M45+5Pp1HOIz87A+CdjbDhKInvQnyA+KroMQEnkxoSFqBmDlGisboOplw== X-Received: by 10.31.208.194 with SMTP id h185mr7493587vkg.59.1476912852121; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 14:34:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.81.201 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 14:34:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 14:34:11 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Threaded P port. To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114e3bfcea3e42053f3e91b8 --001a114e3bfcea3e42053f3e91b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Neil, I have seen several examples of the Rotec radial. Both the 7 and 9 cylinder I believe. Well made and sweet running modern radial. (love the sound, which is the ONLY thing I don't like about the rotary!) I was a motorcycle road racer and just knew that when the American dominance during the 80's was over that the Aussies and New Zealanders would pick up the torch. Lots of innovation and experimentation there. True in aircraft as well. You guys are as crazy as we are! Must be in the water or something! Bill On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Neil Unger wrote: > Bill, I have been told that Rotec in Melb Aust, makers of a small radial, > also make a brilliant slide throttle. I am happy for the rotary to idle > at 2000, or a little less at it give a prop speed of 6-700. Again it is up > to we owners as to what is acceptable for the given cost. My TB cost $110 > from the wreckers. The original dual TB came from EFI and cost more like > $1200. They also make great gear if you can pay. Neil > > On 10/20/2016 8:07 AM, William Jepson wrote: > > Neil, > I like his ports, not the same as ours but a good setup also. Ours are > configured with the butterfly close to the inside. It really seems to help > the idle. Our PSRU has an adjustable mesh and everything will idle down to > 1100 engine RPM no problem. (while swinging a prop on the dyno.) I plan on > a proper slide throttle, (hard slide with bearings), to go even further. > I'm on Paul Lamar's newsletter and while there is a lot of dross, there is > some good info there. Recently there was a post from someone that had info > on the Merc. C111. I got several items of information from the drawings and > pictures, also 1 patent. They put the throttle butterflies exactly where we > do. > Bill > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Neil Unger > wrote: > >> Bill, as you can see in Christian's housings, the water galley is sealed >> being the cold side anyway. This is a popular way to stop water leaks on >> the P port. You can also see where the plug fits up against the >> housing. By the way Christian is a wizard on rotaries, he can pull down >> and get going again in a day!!! I hate people like that, he makes me look >> stupid!!! Neil. >> >> On 10/19/2016 8:42 PM, Christian And Tamara Mcdonald wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, 19 October 2016, Christian And Tamara Mcdonald < >> christamarmc@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Here are a couple of pics of my housing which is still working well >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, 17 October 2016, Neil Unger >>> wrote: >>> >>>> found a better one. threaded P port. Neil. >>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> --001a114e3bfcea3e42053f3e91b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Neil,
I have seen several examples of the Rotec radial. Both the 7 and 9 cy= linder I believe. Well made and sweet running modern radial. (love the soun= d, which is the ONLY thing I don't like about the rotary!) I was a moto= rcycle road racer and just knew that when the American dominance during the= 80's was over that the Aussies and New Zealanders would pick up the torch. Lots of innovatio= n and experimentation there. True in aircraft as well. You guys are as craz= y as we are! Must be in the water or something!

Bi= ll

On = Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironlin= e.net> wrote:
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Bill, I have been told that Rotec in Melb Aust, makers of a small radial, also=C2=A0 make a brilliant slide throttle.=C2=A0 I am happy = for the rotary to idle at 2000, or a little less at it give a prop speed of 6-700.=C2=A0 Again it is up to we owners as to what is acceptable for the given cost.=C2=A0 My TB cost $110 from the wreckers.=C2=A0 Th= e original dual TB came from EFI and cost more like $1200.=C2=A0 They also make great gear if you can pay.=C2=A0 Neil


On 10/20/2016 8:07= AM, William Jepson wrote:
Neil,
I like his ports, not the same as ours but a good setup also. Ours are configured with the butterfly close to the inside. It really seems to help the idle. Our PSRU has an adjustable mesh and everything will idle down to 1100 engine RPM no problem. (while swinging a prop on the dyno.) I plan on a proper slide throttle, (hard slide with bearings), to go even further. I'm on Paul Lamar's newsletter and while th= ere is a lot of dross, there is some good info there. Recently there was a post from someone that had info on the Merc. C111. I got several items of information from the drawings and pictures, also 1 patent. They put the throttle butterflies exactly where we do.=C2=A0
Bill

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Bill, as you can see in Christian's housings, the wate= r galley is sealed being the cold side anyway. This is a popular way to stop water leaks on the P port.=C2=A0=C2=A0 = You can also see where the plug fits up against the housing.=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 By the way Christian is a wizard on rotaries, he can pull down and get going again in a day!!!=C2=A0 I hate peop= le like that, he makes me look stupid!!!=C2=A0 Neil.


On 10/19/2016 8:42 PM, Christian And Tamara Mcdonald wrote:


On Wednesday, 19 October 2016, Christian And Tamara Mcdonald <christamarmc@gmail.com> wrote:
Here are a couple of pics of my housing which is still working well



On Monday, 17 October 2016, Neil Unger <flyrotary= @lancaironline.net> wrote:
found a better one.=C2=A0 threaded P port.=C2=A0 Neil.



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