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You could make the tap. Or this:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-npt-taps/=14n37xc

Then use this:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#aluminum-pipe-fittings/=14n3999

Screw it in until it seals, and then trim the inside. Cut the outside to length.

On Monday, October 17, 2016 4:59 PM, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Charlie, actually still experimenting. The housing is turned on a jig in the lathe as the cost of a thread tap for that size exceeds $2000!! Ouch. The inner that seals onto the plug was just high temp sealer. The outer can be sealer or wick in locktite. The plug is aluminium with a taper that is left rough to turbulate the air. apparently very necessary.

There are many ways to p port, so about to get some scrapped housings to experiment with various methods. Cheapest and best whatever that turns out to be.

My second engine has a single TB. About to fire up so will be a ball of knowledge as to what to NOT do shortly.

Attached shows the TB and PSRU. I have put 2.25 runners on to see it it makes a difference. (not shown) Neil.

On 10/17/2016 11:06 PM, Charlie England wrote:

Hi Neil,

Thanks for the pics, and please keep sharing.

Can you give us a blow-by-blow on the process? Do you simply bore the housing on a mill? Straight threads? How do you seal them? Any special techniques where the port goes through the chrome liner? Thread diameter? ID of the pipe? Aluminum, steel, or stainless?

And are you saying that one of you is running individual TB's, as shown in the pics, and the other has a plenum with single TB? Any noticeable differences in HP, BSFC, idle quality, etc?

My hat's off to y'all; you're doing some really interesting and innovative work!

Charlie

On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 11:54 PM, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Kelly, on the twin TB they are 50 mm while on the single (cheaper) is 80 mm, comes off a V8. Neil.

On 10/17/2016 3:30 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote:

Neil,
What size are the throttle body throats ??............

Kelly Troyer

On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 10:44 PM, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Charlie If your eyes are good enough you can jsu see the threads on the inlet P port plugs. They are joined with the clamp to the TB's. I Have another close up I will try and find. Neil

On 10/17/2016 2:33 PM, Charlie England wrote:

And total size of the email must be less than 200K, if memory serves. Do you have any image resizing software?

Charlie
(wanting to see details on those screw-in P-ports)

On 10/16/2016 10:26 PM, Neil Unger wrote:

Chris, Only one Pic per email seems to be the go, Neil

On 10/17/2016 2:07 PM, Christian And Tam wrote:

No worries

Do you have a personal email as I can't seem to post to this forum with pics

Cheers

Sent from my iPhone

On 17 Oct 2016, at 6:34 am, Bobby J. Hughes <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Christian

What manifold pressure do you see at idle? I would love to see a few pictures of your FWF.

Bobby

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On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Christian And Tamara Mcdonald <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Hi Bobby
I went for a single 90mm tb and plenum over the opposite side of the motor and seems to work well, idles at approx 2150 and happily there.

Could get lower but prop speed is low enough.

Cheers

Christian

On Monday, 17 October 2016, Bobby J. Hughes <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Individual TB's were used so they could be located as close to the block as possible for improved idle and throttle response. Idle is still at 18" MP cold and a little lower after warm up. The renesis should have little or no overlap so the single throttle body before the intake manifold appears to work well.

Sale is pending for second buyer. Not sure if engine is staying with the plane or being removed.

Bobby

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> On Oct 16, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Bill Bradburry <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
>
> Bobby,
> Do you know why he did the three TBs and not a plenum with one TB?
> Also I thought I saw where the sale of his plane was pending. What is going on there? Was it sold as a flying plane or did you remove the engine?
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironlin e.net]
> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 8:50 AM
> To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New Gearbox and P-Port Renesis Update- for Neil Unger
>
> Mark Steitle experienced sticky slide throttle. He modified it several times and eventually switched to one butterfly TB per rotor.
>
> Bobby
>
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
>>
>> Doug, Had severe problems with a slide throttle, went with butterfly and no problems since. Neil.
>>
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>>> On 10/16/2016 7:07 PM, Doug Lomheim wrote:
>>> Hi Neil:
>>>
>>> I have read where some P-Port attempts have resulted in a â€œstickyâ€ throttle due to suction at certain power applications, etc. Do you experience any issues such as that with your set up?
>>>
>>> thx.
>>>
>>> Doug
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