X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Kelly Troyer" Received: from mail-oi0-f49.google.com ([209.85.218.49] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.12) with ESMTPS id 9040194 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 00:31:03 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.218.49; envelope-from=keltro@gmail.com Received: by mail-oi0-f49.google.com with SMTP id y2so199768339oie.0 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2016 21:31:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=lxekeaz4QducY0q1GfnCKAhO2/jZzJidKsNzUw3yt/c=; b=fr/HvBGmxOC11r6anS3QhgkHvslMJj/jMdPa/iJDz4DS/PKp4maXpX3mNkwSjAfIPC q90Gnc9ATN7Pszbh+Co4IeLRdLdJpPbVF/OSvRoggTZ6wfiXfYkYPaO5F2T8grfVJ+n7 cQFC2L4cFYqM97PBFGX09tNzNhL8MajCa/ZNbVC6fp692BU28orAawJFC1UuEj/I+7zU mnGF2oGAfFYjzUEaohHbafuAVSKk+or7NQsILYvGeNEIiabSdKTVospTz+y4DITlzTVp P8dagLbEuGfP1x9WePuGVlllhek/HMCtC426ns2d1TvN8eplxC3Cz+pOl0bdFcKvEXSS aXxA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=lxekeaz4QducY0q1GfnCKAhO2/jZzJidKsNzUw3yt/c=; b=KJ9dxLlkyAUfXSp75/gSQsQ2h3Ynh0Tc1mLMoqGk0dtxMAXmNSBhP0PH8ziVqnELu3 75T8Pz0SfF//LAi5a3Jgmqy/6MHIF+5yQMHyX6PQsklBDlytoHZjup+BwK8if6RG/2B9 MbuSVimml5B+YSmVctbhcRTipUA+2L/Ba6WwH7R6HZ6JViCRBffCqrvNjK6jiqilZyEZ Pn5jSaXj7t0XGr6O3frR1LbHrBOGHdnn9m8aHFin9dWTToIZ6lEKVmoQUw1WaltHYxHo TrX7S6xIs/wXchxVqRSAmsTVU0KrfqrnNuAYTbj4ifaGf6QtOSS3ScNkZLZuDkzceP8X OfUg== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RmhhSsr7oSn7tChHH1V8EhSHwVvwDjG/K2vmZ3Gu/R9F9ocw5T9Fybokqq/ZRKCZ6uPILTM+OJUuI5CkA== X-Received: by 10.202.206.215 with SMTP id e206mr15959275oig.80.1476678645212; Sun, 16 Oct 2016 21:30:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.29.234 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Oct 2016 21:30:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2016 23:30:44 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: New Gearbox and P-Port Renesis Update- for Neil Unger To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113d21c6186a96053f080ab3 --001a113d21c6186a96053f080ab3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Neil, What size are the throttle body throats ??............ Kelly Troyer On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 10:44 PM, Neil Unger wrote: > Charlie If your eyes are good enough you can jsu see the threads on the > inlet P port plugs. They are joined with the clamp to the TB's. I Have > another close up I will try and find. Neil > > On 10/17/2016 2:33 PM, Charlie England wrote: > > And total size of the email must be less than 200K, if memory serves. Do > you have any image resizing software? > > Charlie > (wanting to see details on those screw-in P-ports) > > On 10/16/2016 10:26 PM, Neil Unger wrote: > > Chris, Only one Pic per email seems to be the go, Neil > > On 10/17/2016 2:07 PM, Christian And Tam wrote: > > No worries > Do you have a personal email as I can't seem to post to this forum with > pics > > Cheers > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 17 Oct 2016, at 6:34 am, Bobby J. Hughes > wrote: > > Christian > What manifold pressure do you see at idle? I would love to see a few > pictures of your FWF. > > > Bobby > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Christian And Tamara Mcdonald < > flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > > Hi Bobby > I went for a single 90mm tb and plenum over the opposite side of the moto= r > and seems to work well, idles at approx 2150 and happily there. > Could get lower but prop speed is low enough. > > Cheers > Christian > > On Monday, 17 October 2016, Bobby J. Hughes > wrote: > >> Individual TB's were used so they could be located as close to the block >> as possible for improved idle and throttle response. Idle is still at 18= " >> MP cold and a little lower after warm up. The renesis should have little= or >> no overlap so the single throttle body before the intake manifold appear= s >> to work well. >> >> Sale is pending for second buyer. Not sure if engine is staying with the >> plane or being removed. >> >> Bobby >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On Oct 16, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Bill Bradburry < >> flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >> > >> > Bobby, >> > Do you know why he did the three TBs and not a plenum with one TB? >> > Also I thought I saw where the sale of his plane was pending. What is >> going on there? Was it sold as a flying plane or did you remove the eng= ine? >> > Bill >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] >> > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 8:50 AM >> > To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New Gearbox and P-Port Renesis Update- for >> Neil Unger >> > >> > Mark Steitle experienced sticky slide throttle. He modified it several >> times and eventually switched to one butterfly TB per rotor. >> > >> > Bobby >> > >> > Sent from my iPad >> > >> >> On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Neil Unger >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Doug, Had severe problems with a slide throttle, went with butterfl= y >> and no problems since. Neil. >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 10/16/2016 7:07 PM, Doug Lomheim wrote: >> >>> Hi Neil: >> >>> >> >>> I have read where some P-Port attempts have resulted in a >> =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=93sticky=C3=A2=E2=82=AC throttle due to suction at c= ertain power applications, etc. >> Do you experience any issues such as that with your set up? >> >>> >> >>> thx. >> >>> >> >>> Doug >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline. >> net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline. >> net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> > >> > -- >> > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline. >> net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline. >> net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline. >> net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> > > > --001a113d21c6186a96053f080ab3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Neil,
=C2=A0 What size are the throttle body throats ?= ?............

Kelly Troyer

On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 10:44 PM, N= eil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
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Charlie=C2=A0 If your eyes are good enough you can jsu see the threa= ds on the inlet P port plugs.=C2=A0 They are joined with the clamp to th= e TB's.=C2=A0 I Have another close up I will try and find.=C2=A0 Ne= il


On 10/17/2016 2:33 = PM, Charlie England wrote:
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And total size of= the email must be less than 200K, if memory serves. Do you have any image resizing software?

Charlie
(wanting to see details on those screw-in P-ports)

On 10/16/2016 10:26 PM, Neil Unger wrote:
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Chris,=C2=A0 Only one Pic per email seems to be the go,=C2=A0 Ne= il


On 10/17/2016 2= :07 PM, Christian And Tam wrote:
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No worries
Do you have a personal email as I can't seem to post to this forum with pics

Cheers

Sent from my iPhone

On 17 Oct 2016, at 6:34 am, Bobby J. Hughes <flyrotary@lancaironline.n= et> wrote:

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Christian
What mani= fold pressure do you see at idle?=C2=A0 I would love to see a few pictures of yo= ur FWF.=C2=A0


Bobby





Sent from my iPad

On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Christian And Tamara Mcdonald <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Hi Bobby
I went for a single 90mm tb and plenum over the opposite side of the motor and seems to work well, idles at approx 2150 and happily there.
Could get lower but prop speed is low enough.

Cheers
Christian

On Monday, 17 October 2016, Bobby J. Hughes <flyrotary@lancair= online.net> wrote:
Individual TB's were used so they could be located as close to the block as possible for improved idle and throttle response. Idle is still at 18"=C2=A0 MP= cold and a little lower after warm up. The renesis should have little or no overlap so the single throttle body before the intake manifold appears to work well.

Sale is pending for second buyer. Not sure if engine is staying with the plane or being removed.
Bobby

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 16, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Bill Bradburry <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
>
> Bobby,
> Do you know why he did the three TBs and not a plenum with one TB?
> Also I thought I saw where the sale of his plane was pending.=C2=A0 What is going on there?=C2= =A0 Was it sold as a flying plane or did you remove the engine?
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyro= tary@lancaironline.net]
> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 8:50 AM
> To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New Gearbox and P-Port Renesis Update- for Neil Unger
>
> Mark Steitle experienced sticky slide throttle. He modified it several times and eventually switched to one butterfly TB per rotor. >
> Bobby
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Oct 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
>>
>> Doug,=C2=A0 Had severe problems with a slide throttle,=C2=A0 went with butterfly and no problems since.=C2=A0 Neil.
>>
>>
>>> On 10/16/2016 7:07 PM, Doug Lomheim wrote:
>>> Hi Neil:
>>>
>>> I have read where some P-Port attempts have resulted in a =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C5=93stic= ky=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=C2=A0 throttle due to suction at certain power applications, etc.=C2=A0 Do you experience any issues such as that with your set up?
>>>
>>> thx.
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
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