X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Tom Gillespie" Received: from nm37-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.229.134] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.4) with ESMTPS id 7867081 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 16:02:47 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.229.134; envelope-from=pseudowilly33@ymail.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s2048; t=1437940933; bh=4JMGAfj8QOjtQVigYJuj6BaSImQELzx05m3WHvOjJ/8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=MW+uZXJIg/VpVjYLdU/Sxjs+yLOinZgP2JxIAahvGIpZ0bmwqW+YuUemp/NoSc/b1k9D1M+EmFWkW9yS7ZdoXIpUx7oyYL/8jQwmz3MXKCtKGDzW1UFbXJWH4nW5iuSxK1Olk4U6mMGTE4RDbMWcaT7aJBvW/jv926Z6E8FkkazinAl7pjNRMo2xckz+imtupMYJRy2GcSV88AQrLOtLa6qQFpisTlmbqUH8yI/8Gt/3RQ1fGyJJifTfOPgh4S2y8JSszEqZ8M0ehtiUzp+PX89AqAn6urq9xqzahgU/AmqEsIqZ/sRvrOeM9b2E+HEgLpiUwKZXvG/tJyXvhyBm0Q== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jul 2015 20:02:13 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.118] by nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jul 2015 19:59:23 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.174] by tm109.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jul 2015 19:59:23 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.211] by tm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jul 2015 19:59:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1020.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jul 2015 19:59:23 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 183136.73248.bm@omp1020.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: DnRKBlcVM1mffq9N1btpDZCdDeOLDfWI1Ddk7mc1AhThyPE2LKSnYe7VsepddLf eCZzATR9PzAp4tMMeNzCi5XVIG0GsIVHhjE0spj7badqek2jlN5e9BhHkavNoe1IcMPe1FHZgRVd JueXtWszHQbGIAnXs1OeqsNhEVcYRR2zUQnFplkg6N3tpgHPQIFLzpNV1q9c0Zdh4T3SUTlpRinZ pOea0_n4QbncDSlb0ntzVoy2QRpUGVo1CX_W.t9Zw558Zeks7R.HVINod2ubqu10xLHy6mIkrOr6 3le6holEBvIcZ8rSPD_5Stjx3ScFukagjmBl8H7W327BluTYxzSd4aTTADQL21uUqs._KPtmaNKO CTsljoWBQnhmExbyADmv7cGglRD176Es_K9SHmDncKFnn4WBwZKHyrh.vU_E7VYt_mTYBQzIcNxy xXzXAuTal0nCh21b3lgzF17c5uXLdV5Ed3ThAj_roUujBWaZUedS2ARm.ZWA4DtP94HC8H9mE64c YVKDgWnsHsUz1wRoNySHhUBNfBy6.XuJHveKx3gTniic- Received: by 76.13.26.142; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 19:59:22 +0000 Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 19:59:22 +0000 (UTC) Reply-To: Tom Gillespie To: Rotary motors in aircraft Message-ID: <700713238.3028366.1437940762075.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Anyone or everyone in Oshkosh? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3028365_1686277974.1437940762063" Content-Length: 18963 ------=_Part_3028365_1686277974.1437940762063 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tracy,=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 That is very interesting! Could one be built speci= fically for my combination of a high HP 20 B? I would have more peace of mi= nd knowing how it was put together by me along with your knowledge and expe= rience. The thought of someone just starting out making them does not sit w= ell with me as they are an unknown.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Let me know what you think = and I will be in touch.=C2=A0Thanks for your time!~~~tg~~~ =20 From: Tracy To: Rotary motors in aircraft =20 Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 10:04 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Anyone or everyone in Oshkosh? =20 The design is royalty free. =C2=A0Anyone who wants to build it is more than= welcome. =C2=A0 I can help with info if you need it. Tracy Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2015, at 17:48, Thomas Mann wrote: #yiv4799400594 #yiv4799400594 #yiv4799400594 #yiv4799400594 -- p.yiv479940= 0594MsoNormal, #yiv4799400594 li.yiv4799400594MsoNormal, #yiv4799400594 div= .yiv4799400594MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;= font-family:Calibri;}#yiv4799400594 a:link, #yiv4799400594 span.yiv47994005= 94MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4799400594 span.y= iv4799400594MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#= yiv4799400594 p.yiv4799400594msolistparagraph, #yiv4799400594 li.yiv4799400= 594msolistparagraph, #yiv4799400594 div.yiv4799400594msolistparagraph {marg= in-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-botto= m:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv4799400594 p.yiv4799400594msolistparagraphc= xspfirst, #yiv4799400594 li.yiv4799400594msolistparagraphcxspfirst, #yiv479= 9400594 div.yiv4799400594msolistparagraphcxspfirst {margin-top:0in;margin-r= ight:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-heig= ht:115%;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv4799400594 p.yiv4799400594msolistparagraphcxs= pmiddle, #yiv4799400594 li.yiv4799400594msolistparagraphcxspmiddle, #yiv479= 9400594 div.yiv4799400594msolistparagraphcxspmiddle {margin-top:0in;margin-= right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-hei= ght:115%;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv4799400594 p.yiv4799400594msolistparagraphcx= splast, #yiv4799400594 li.yiv4799400594msolistparagraphcxsplast, #yiv479940= 0594 div.yiv4799400594msolistparagraphcxsplast {margin-top:0in;margin-right= :0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:1= 15%;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv4799400594 span.yiv4799400594emailstyle17 {font-= family:Calibri;color:windowtext;}#yiv4799400594 span.yiv4799400594EmailStyl= e22 {font-family:Arial;color:navy;}#yiv4799400594 div.yiv4799400594Section1= {}#yiv4799400594 #yiv4799400594 #yiv4799400594 -- p.yiv4799400594MsoListPa= ragraph, #yiv4799400594 li.yiv4799400594MsoListParagraph, #yiv4799400594 di= v.yiv4799400594MsoListParagraph {margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bot= tom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;}#yiv4799400594 p.yiv4799400= 594MsoNormal, #yiv4799400594 li.yiv4799400594MsoNormal, #yiv4799400594 div= .yiv4799400594MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;}#yiv4799400594 p= .yiv4799400594MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst, #yiv4799400594 li.yiv4799400594Mso= ListParagraphCxSpFirst, #yiv4799400594 div.yiv4799400594MsoListParagraphCxS= pFirst, #yiv4799400594 p.yiv4799400594MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle, #yiv47994= 00594 li.yiv4799400594MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle, #yiv4799400594 div.yiv479= 9400594MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle, #yiv4799400594 p.yiv4799400594MsoListPar= agraphCxSpLast, #yiv4799400594 li.yiv4799400594MsoListParagraphCxSpLast, #y= iv4799400594 div.yiv4799400594MsoListParagraphCxSpLast {margin-top:0in;marg= in-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-= height:115%;}#yiv4799400594 Well, barring the passage of the=C2=A0=E2=80=9C= Affordable Airplane Act=E2=80=9D perhaps we should start trying to solve ou= r own problems. I don=E2=80=99t know what the transaction was regarding pro= duction of Tracy=E2=80=99s design but if it=E2=80=99s based off of royaltie= s for every unit sold, I would say that it=E2=80=99s not benefiting anyone.= =20 Perhaps a competitive bid is in order? From:=C2=A0Fly Rotary Sent:=C2=A0=E2=80=8ESaturday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8EJuly=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E25= =E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015 =E2=80=8E2=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E38=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E= PM To:=C2=A0Fly Rotary Absent a viable PSRU solution, thereprobably is no, =E2=80=9Crotary engine = option=E2=80=9D=E2=80=A6=C2=A0 :>(=C2=A0B2=C2=A0From: Rotary motors in airc= raft[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]=20 Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 2:01PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Anyone oreveryone in Oshkosh?=C2=A0=E2=80=A6=E2=80= =A6=C2=A0nosign of rotaries. ______________________________________________= _____________________________=C2=A0WhatI have found is that if you want the= re to be a Rotary Engine forum, you have todo it yourself. IfI had a flying= Rotary, I would be willing to do this but as I do not, it wouldnot be appr= opriate.=C2=A0Weshould make an effort to have a=C2=A0=E2=80=9CFly Rotary=E2= =80=9D forum and present our casefor the Rotary Engine as a viable alternat= ive to the piston solution.Iwould propose that this comes from our group ra= ther than as a piggy-back on toany of the other alternative engine groups.I= would not want for our engine solution to be sandwich between the Corvair,S= ubaru and Volkswagen groups.=C2=A0Ifyou want to see it there, you have to m= ake it happen.=C2=A0TMann ------=_Part_3028365_1686277974.1437940762063 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tracy,
<= div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1437940313093_5450" dir=3D"ltr">    T= hat is very interesting! Could one be built specifically for my combination= of a high HP 20 B? I would have more peace of mind knowing how it was put = together by me along with your knowledge and experience. The thought of som= eone just starting out making them does not sit well with me as they are an= unknown.
&nbs= p;  Let me know what you think and I will be in touch.
 Thanks for your time!
~~~tg~~~



From: Tracy <flyrotary@lancair= online.net>
To:<= /span> Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> Sent: Sun= day, July 26, 2015 10:04 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Anyone or everyone in Oshkosh?=

The design is royalty free.  Anyone who want= s to build it is more than welcome.   I can help with info if you need= it.

Tracy

Sent from my iPad
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On Jul 25, 2015, at 17:48, Thomas Mann <flyrotary@la= ncaironline.net> wrote:

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Well, barring the passage of = the =E2=80=9CAffordable Airplane Act=E2=80=9D perhaps we should start = trying to solve our own problems.
I do= n=E2=80=99t know what the transaction was regarding production of Tracy=E2= =80=99s design but if it=E2=80=99s based off of royalties for every unit so= ld, I would say that it=E2=80=99s not benefiting anyone.

Perhaps a competitive bid is in order?

From: Fly Rotar= y
Sent: =E2=80=8ESaturday=E2=80=8E, =E2= =80=8EJuly=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E25=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015 =E2=80=8E2=E2=80=8E= :=E2=80=8E38=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM
To: Fly Rotary

Abse= nt a viable PSRU solution, there probably is no, =E2=80=9Crotary engine option=E2=80=9D=E2=80=A6  :>= (
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<= span style=3D"font-family:Tahoma;font-size:10pt;font-weight:bold;">From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailt= o:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 20= 15 2:01 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: An= yone or everyone in Oshkosh?
 
=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6 no sign of rotaries.
______________________________________________= _____________________________
 
What I have found is that if you want there to be a Rotary Engine forum, you hav= e to do it yourself.
If I had a flying Rotary, I would be willing to do this but as I do not, it wo= uld not be appropriate.
 
We should make an effort to have a =E2=80=9CFly Rotary=E2=80=9D forum and= present our case for the Rotary Engine as a viable alternative to the piston solution.
I would propose that this comes from our group rather than as a piggy-back on= to any of the other alternative engine groups.
I would not want for our engine solution to be sandwich between the Corvair, Subaru and Volkswagen groups.
 
If you want to see it there, you have to make it happen.
 
T Mann


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