X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from securemail.ever-tek.com ([64.129.170.194] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.8) with ESMTP id 6731249 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 12:53:38 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.129.170.194; envelope-from=cbarber@texasattorney.net Received: from FCD-MAIL06.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([fe80::697f:d6aa:b87:78d8]) by FCD-MAIL05.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([fe80::809d:a06e:5913:452e%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 11:53:01 -0600 From: Chris Barber To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Greetings Rotarians Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: Greetings Rotarians Thread-Index: AQHPKDFQUEJp81gzp0OSn+vvTy3cT5qzd9Da Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 17:54:08 +0000 Message-ID: <2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D300143254C04@FCD-MAIL06.FCDATA.PRIVATE> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [99.98.107.59] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D300143254C04FCDMAIL06FCDA_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D300143254C04FCDMAIL06FCDA_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the update Chrissi and Randi. Ya'll are a class act. I have re-drive, but i hate not having a source and my faith in you is sig= nificant. Uh, not to distract you from the production runs, but how is ya'lls build p= rogressing? All the best, Chris Barber Houston ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of cozygirrrl@aol.com [cozygirrrl@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:30 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Greetings Rotarians Mazdafarians, Tracy passed the torch to us on the redrives last year. We are gathering in= formation and documentation. Let's just say this is no minor undertaking. We have not stepped up to offer them because we do not push products we can= not give a firm commitment on supply and delivery. In the case of our intake manifolds we had to build= prototype(s) and get a feel for the demand. The market for the redrives is a very small one with a huge investment in c= omponents that we will have to lay out a sizable sum of cash for inventory that will it on our shelves. It has never been our practice to take money up front or deposits even on o= ur engine mounts and mounting system parts but this may be the exception. Stay tuned. Regards, Chrissi & Randi CG Products. -----Original Message----- From: Ed Anderson > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Wed, Feb 12, 2014 9:44 am Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Greetings Rotarians Bill, my understanding is that Tracy has stopped production on the EC/EM series and the Gearbox. He will continue to support the ones out in the field, but no longer producing them. Hope the Cozy Girls to continue the gear box production. The electronics are somewhat easier to get around - I flew with a HALTECH F3 fuel injection system for years - for example. But I understand the rotary rebuild/parts will still continue to be available. Well, without Mazda producing the rotary engine, I think that in itself wil= l considerably dampening the rotary interest. I was eagerly awaiting the 16X - but alas. Ed -----Original Message----- From: Bill Bradburry Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:11 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Greetings Rotarians Ed, Are they just selling out his old inventory or do you mean that he is no longer developing new products like going from EC-2 to EC-3? Is he still manufacturing new EC-3/EM-3s? I know he farmed out the PSRU production to the Cozy Girls, but I have not heard that they have manufactured any for sale? It seems that flying rotaries may be going downhill faster than Mazda seems to be! If not, some of these manufacturers need to step up and say something to define their future. Otherwise some of their potential customers are going to take a walk. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 8:39 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Greetings Rotarians Welcome, James Indeed Tracy has stopped production on the electronic and gear box. However, the rotary engine parts are still (at this point) available throug= h Real World Solutions. Tracy still supports those products, just does not produce new ones anymore (at this time) Ed Edward L. Anderson Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC 305 Reefton Road Weddington, NC 28104 http://www.andersonee.com http://www.eicommander.com -----Original Message----- From: James Osborn Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 12:33 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Greetings Rotarians Hi Guys, I am new to the list. I am new to airplane building but a long time RX7 owner and rotor head. My first aircraft project is a Onex - a single rotor motor with aluminum side housings would be cool, but I will probably stick with the recommended Sonex VW conversion and plan on a two rotor RV as my next project. Somebody in my local EAA chapter who is building a Cozy with an RX8 motor told me that Tracy is retired and RDs and ECs are no longer available? All rumor and my friend is honest he doesn't know much about rotaries (and has his re-drive and ignition already). I've been buying parts from RA for years (Super Seals, o-ring kits, etc. for auto use) and noticed they moved. The site still shows all this stuff for sale like it's still available. An= d I recently ordered a Sohn oil adapter for my car from them and it came righ= t away. So what's the scoop? When I get to my rotary aviation project in a few years, am I going to have to roll my own like you early rotary guys were doing twenty years ago? -- James -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3697/7085 - Release Date: 02/11/14 -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ----- No virus found in this message. 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Thanks for the update Chrissi and Randi.  Ya'll are a class act= .

I have  re-drive, but i hate not having a source and my faith in = you is significant.

Uh, not to distract you from the production runs, but how is ya'lls bu= ild progressing?

All the best,

Chris Barber
Houston
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of cozygir= rrl@aol.com [cozygirrrl@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:30 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Greetings Rotarians

Mazdafarians,
 
Tracy passed the torch to us on the redrives last year. We are= gathering information and documentation.
Let's just say this is no minor undertaking.
We have not stepped up to offer them because we do not push pr= oducts we cannot give a firm commitment
on supply and delivery. In the case of our intake manifolds we= had to build prototype(s) and get a feel for the demand.
The market for the redrives is a very small one with a huge investment= in components that we will have to lay out
a sizable sum of cash for inventory that will it on our shelves.
It has never been our practice to take money up front or deposits even= on our engine mounts
and mounting system parts but this may be the exception.
Stay tuned.
 
Regards, Chrissi & Randi CG Products.
 
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From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net&g= t;
Sent: Wed, Feb 12, 2014 9:44 am
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Greetings Rotarians

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Hi Guys,=0A=
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Somebody in my local EAA chapter who is building a Cozy with an RX8 motor=
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