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From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
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Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fwd: Fwf weight
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 12:39:15 -0500
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True, the braided SS line are heavy and undoubtedly not necessary - but, 
hey, back in 1995 who knew {:>)

Ed

-----Original Message----- 
From: Charlie England
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 10:53 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fwd: Fwf weight

I wish I'd weighed my O-320 Lyc installation when I had it off the -4
for a top overhaul, but it just didn't occur to me at the time.

The firewall portion of my mount (without the gear legs) weighs 15 lbs,
so that makes 325 lbs plus any added weight for the muffler. I might be
able to offset most of the muffler weight by building a stainless
manifold; the stock portion on the engine weighs 9.3 lbs. The radiator &
duct weighs 8.7 lbs, with just over a pound for its mounting brackets. I
forgot to separately weigh the oil cooler/duct/mount, but it's not
light. The engine mount adapters are massively over built, but the
combined weight of all three plus the 'V' that ties the top mount to the
main mount is just over 7 lbs.

I remember you thinking that your installation could have been lighter
without the stainless coolant lines. I suppose I shouldn't be too
disappointed with this weight, but I had this vague hope of coming in
under 300 lbs. Doesn't seem possible unless much lighter heat exchangers
are available. Anyone manage to hit the 300 mark (without the firewall
portion of the mount, of course)?

Charlie

On 2/9/2014 6:31 AM, Ed Anderson wrote:
> Charlie, my FWF installation weighed in a 340 lbs that included everything 
> including the motor mount (did not include prop).  Included Engine, Gear 
> box, starter, two radiators, oil cooler, ducting, exhaust header (no 
> muffler) and intake manifold.  It also include a bunch of heavy -16 
> stainless steel braid radiator hoses and smaller oil and fuel lines (all 
> SS braid) and their heavy fittings.  It also include my small header tank 
> and oil/air separator (since removed).
>
> Ed
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Charlie England
> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 11:12 PM
> To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Fwd: Fwf weight
>
> Anyone else weigh their installation? I'd like to know how this compares.
>
> This is dry weight, including all the mount adapter hardware that isn't
> attached to the firewall, Richard's OMP adapter & OMP, intake manifold
> (not including the sheet aluminum cover for the plenum), both heat
> exchangers/diffusers, almost all the engine plumbing, and the 'core' of
> the stock exhaust manifold (fairly heavy). It does not include a muffler
> (6 lbs for the Aeroturbine AT2525) or the associated stainless tubing. I
> even threw on a couple of plastic reservoirs to account for coolant &
> 2stroke oil tanks. To be realistic, I'll probably need to add another
> 10-15 lbs, minimum.
>
> Charlie


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