X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-pb0-f52.google.com ([209.85.160.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.8) with ESMTPS id 6703559 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 14:10:28 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.160.52; envelope-from=dale.rog@gmail.com Received: by mail-pb0-f52.google.com with SMTP id jt11so5069363pbb.39 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 11:09:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=+af2O7Hrsy/5Gcj24sKxjeJIeE0fsNMP4rUDC5ERwFs=; b=A3PUuxyCRdZSDhMMc19akiRR7uKjRJRORG+QFVh1ARf2nJfk++JqXAryT3k2RC2r4W uBepnJW63/zvqISEEJbtRe+FbmbAS9z6N9JSJrURA9bnJO9vjuYtnfoRT+DmaDZ7fUOk /uOsuajGSYGjOaczvh2159fezo7boYiCwHqyJ1oa6opSRR825ymsfQVFKgIGuWEXfEGj Tk8o+s6v0pdgWIpE1D78TkOBykmauv58WqHf6Au2q+pCMb0UDyw3yZo/MvgKrgnfwPkH RyFByQHCsxB0l8GfeL5WdiBJVdGA124VY6KCXn93vpvYXXD3aYuuStHVHr3zraMq5qst AvcA== X-Received: by 10.68.98.3 with SMTP id ee3mr26449393pbb.31.1390763393921; Sun, 26 Jan 2014 11:09:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.101] (ip72-201-190-116.ph.ph.cox.net. [72.201.190.116]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pe3sm24495239pbc.23.2014.01.26.11.09.53 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 26 Jan 2014 11:09:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52E55D76.9030108@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 12:09:42 -0700 From: Dale_R User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Velocity tire blow out References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060406050108080300000905" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060406050108080300000905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris, I'm with Bill on this one, 1.5" sounds like a lot of toe in (or out, for that matter) unless it's being measured at maybe 20' in front of the axle. Are you certain they didn't mean 1.5 degrees? I don't know the dynamics of the Velocity main gear in motion, but as a quick rule of thumb, I'd clamp a couple of 24" angle irons to the two rims with a 1" tail behind (to measure between) and then adjust the toe in until the distance between the fronts is about 1/8" to 3/16" less than the rear. Unless the gear tends to twist outward (toe out) during motion, that should be sufficient toe in. On 1/26/2014 11:18 AM, Bill Bradburry wrote: > > Chris, > > How far out in front of the tire is that one inch or 1.5 inch > measured? That seems like a lot of toe in. The Lancair fixed gears are > 0.5 inch measured 3 feet in front of the tire. > > Hopefully,attached to a follow on msg is a jpg on how to build a jig > to measure the toe in. The list is limited to 300kb and the file is > 285kb. > > Bill > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] > *On Behalf Of *Chris Barber > *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:52 AM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Velocity tire blow out > > The manual says one inch towards center. > > Velocity Inc responded on the Velocity list 1.5 inches. I hope to make > out to the hangar when I get off duty at 0070 hrs in the morning > (Sunday. Still adapting to graveyard shift I started this week). > Bought two new tires and tube yesterday. Will be trying to figure it out. > > Chris > > Sent from my iPhone 5 > > > On Jan 25, 2014, at 22:30, "Terry Adams" > wrote: > >> Chris, >> I'll make that 4 cents - Mark's 2 + my 2. What does Velocity >> indicate for checking toe-in/toe-out? >> >> Terry >> N51079 >> KSCK >> -- Best Regards, Dale_R Cozy MKIV #497 --------------060406050108080300000905 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Chris,

   I'm with Bill on this one, 1.5" sounds like a lot of toe in (or out, for that matter) unless it's being measured at maybe 20' in front of the axle.  Are you certain they didn't mean 1.5 degrees?

   I don't know the dynamics of the Velocity main gear in motion, but as a quick rule of thumb, I'd clamp a couple of 24" angle irons to the two rims with a 1" tail behind (to measure between) and then adjust the toe in until the distance between the fronts is about 1/8" to 3/16" less than the rear.  Unless the gear tends to twist outward (toe out) during motion, that should be sufficient toe in.


On 1/26/2014 11:18 AM, Bill Bradburry wrote:

Chris,

How far out in front of the tire is that one inch or 1.5 inch measured? That seems like a lot of toe in. The Lancair fixed gears are 0.5 inch measured 3 feet in front of the tire.

 

Hopefully,attached to a follow on msg is a jpg on how to build a jig to measure the toe in.  The list is limited to 300kb and the file is 285kb.

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Chris Barber
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:52 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Velocity tire blow out

 

The manual says one inch towards center.  

 

Velocity Inc responded on the Velocity list 1.5 inches. I hope to make out to the hangar when I get off duty at 0070 hrs in the morning (Sunday. Still adapting to graveyard shift I started this week). Bought two new tires and tube yesterday. Will be trying to figure it out. 

 

Chris

Sent from my iPhone 5


On Jan 25, 2014, at 22:30, "Terry Adams" <terrywadams@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Chris,
I'll make that 4 cents - Mark's 2 + my 2.  What does Velocity indicate for checking toe-in/toe-out?

Terry
N51079
KSCK 



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Best Regards,
Dale_R
Cozy MKIV #497
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