X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from nm17-vm6.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([216.109.115.69] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.8) with ESMTPS id 6702812 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:14:57 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.109.115.69; envelope-from=downing.j@sbcglobal.net Received: from [66.196.81.158] by nm17.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jan 2014 01:14:23 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.97] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jan 2014 01:14:22 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp117.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jan 2014 01:14:22 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sbcglobal.net; s=s1024; t=1390698862; bh=uWgmZFED2eZF7Le+5j7iO8m0MDNFh38dbGEbmcBoZn8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=iB+c0ApgP+xToyN+x4hBB7YwCjds2E4uDawVuRKXlRUPS0R8yuNVr+6OmG58I/4own0Rj//6riTk6pCuIRejMD3n5PW3tVjK1X9Wmm7GFJekLjo/2JPcrYOJJydVJA3rHBHVWpZKb8dOWF7jluliNgrU3xokiPxSvhn83vYgneU= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 529276.46541.bm@smtp117.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: I52JQTwVM1nNoQNm0bBsm_y143z5y9_.BTNHfkYdTB8zgLP 2MUpvrKjFeKibpKEzThB5dZFREplngR.pVcDvXnpstKkd3KOuo_fk2tW9IaC OBo8RFu0xGVJW4a9dY4lsM2P7P1IFJXos4mM4KRlPR8psJaqWcEAxNlIngYa KEZtRumEHgiqSaQKZvt5n34URobwr43tLJhochjhyZtIG8U7Xr3ynjA872Ft HooZQrS2O03iykfb5NO8VtthXOAr_2Hg9elqkreF3y_P2vs5Dbq49ul73bwd wZfFYwfWkBqBvhF_C3k7H3MnAAyWrsz8KvNE0Kv1h2MQYIIkQSz4FMZ3PZFz VNftmCDfu_JNSmgpxzqZjM1uxTP6AORHeRnS8hEmZMpofw.a0PPPPS1Z6OKs YT_iidtA4eQX8QTluPQZ4xmInasQYEToF5vSmCyUq.OpATIa435MP73hk7ce 137C2ZZKt7PaQ3bD3u4ZDHtIcriO0VU.ZfEXJ6ZzDbfM8qTEIAjwzksCimfW ld2XNIoVykS3WmRXXZJBX9utj4jmaOWIOvvxZ1Zax.AuI_3Gh9gIYbpYhKwF c8Q4DM8WzUSi3HSm2aBKrew-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 4Ss7WYSswBAR3ULsDHPw5yIFKkoakpn6PCJcwuPp3izwMVSl X-Rocket-Received: from JohnPC (downing.j@76.235.161.248 with plain [98.138.84.52]) by smtp117.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Jan 2014 01:14:22 +0000 UTC Message-ID: From: To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Exhaust Leak at Turbo Outlet Flange Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:14:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01CF1A0A.0A888CF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CF1A0A.0A888CF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had the nuts come loose on my turbo manifold on the block, I'm using = with out the turbo, so I drilled the nuts and secured them with wire. = JohnD Thanks for keeping us all informed , helps us all to make sure we look = for often simple overlooked areas. Cheers Christian=20 Renises 13 b rv7 Sent from my iPad On 26/01/2014, at 3:17 AM, shipchief@aol.com wrote: During the 8th flight of my RV8 with 13B Turbo, I experienced an = exhaust leak at the turbo exhaust flange. I mistakenly used brass = exhaust nuts which are twice as tall as regular nuts. They work great = on most engines. I should have know better, as the temperature at the = turbo outlet, under the insulation is much higher. The brass nuts softened and deformed into a flange face at the = washer! Once the tension was gone, the heat & vibration did the rest. The exhaust gasket blew where the gap was widest, at the top. The escaping heat burned thru the insulating jacket and the stick on = reflective aluminum. Then the fiberglass cowl charred, I smelled that! I was close to my destination, and high, so I was able to pull off = the power, put down the nosed and get on the ground without incident. I'm disassembling it now, looks like I need 4 high temperature lock = nuts and a TO-4 exhaust flange gasket. I should review and improve the = insulation over the turbine housing. Also I need to repair the charred = area of the cowl, which might be in the form of an aluminum access hatch. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CF1A0A.0A888CF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
I had the nuts come loose on my turbo=20 manifold on the block, I'm using with out the turbo, so I = drilled=20 the nuts and secured them with wire.  JohnD

Thanks for keeping us all informed , helps us all to make sure we = look=20 for often simple overlooked areas.

Cheers
Christian 
Renises 13 b rv7

Sent from my iPad

On 26/01/2014, at 3:17 AM, shipchief@aol.com = wrote:

During the 8th = flight of my=20 RV8 with 13B Turbo, I experienced an exhaust leak at the turbo = exhaust=20 flange. I mistakenly used brass exhaust nuts  which are twice = as tall=20 as regular nuts. They work great on most engines. I should have know = better,=20 as the temperature at the turbo outlet, under the insulation is much = higher.
The brass nuts softened and deformed into a flange face at the = washer!=20 Once the tension was gone, the heat & vibration did the = rest.
The exhaust gasket blew where the gap was widest, at the = top.
The escaping heat burned thru the insulating jacket and = the stick=20 on reflective aluminum. Then the fiberglass = cowl charred, I=20 smelled that!
I was close to my destination, and high, so I was able to pull = off the=20 power, put down the nosed and get on the ground without = incident.
I'm disassembling it now, looks like I need 4 high = temperature=20 lock nuts and a TO-4 exhaust flange gasket. I should review and = improve the=20 insulation over the turbine housing. Also I need to repair the = charred area=20 of the cowl, which might be in the form of an aluminum access=20 hatch.
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