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[173.172.120.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id nw5sm19116935obc.9.2014.01.18.15.57.31 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:57:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: muffler for Renesis? References: From: Mark Steitle Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11B554a) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <11A8A4D4-1A03-48F4-92C3-BD77EE7D231F@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 17:57:31 -0600 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) The main body of the non resonator muffler that I have is only 12.5" long, 1= 9.5" including the inlet and outlet. But those could be cut off. This is s= hort enough to fit inside many cowls. That's what I'm planning on doing. Mark Sent from my iPad > On Jan 18, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Charlie England wrote= : >=20 > Thanks, Mark. I discovered that after I sent the previous message. Their w= eb site seems to have a somewhat random 'organization'. >=20 > Is the non-res model only 20" overall, as they describe? That would make i= t only slightly longer than the H.P. resonator that Dennis is using, & since= it appears to be only a perforated tube in the main cylinder, it should sur= vive much better than anything with actual baffles and/or packing. >=20 > Charlie >=20 >> On 1/18/2014 9:38 AM, Mark Steitle wrote: >> Charlie, >> They stock two types, one with packing, one without. The one with packin= g is their "resonator"model, and it is longer than the non-res model. I bou= ght the non-res model as I figured the packing was only temporary. I have n= ot installed it yet, so no flight report. >>=20 >> Mark >>=20 >> Sent from my iPad >>=20 >>> On Jan 18, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Charlie England wrot= e: >>>=20 >>> Thanks, Tracy; it's good news that it is both quiet and survives. Didn't= realize that the aeroturbine had packing in it. If it performs as well as, o= r better than the hushpower, I may give it a shot. It's actually a bit cheap= er than the h.p. resonator. >>>=20 >>> Charlie >>>=20 >>>> On 1/17/2014 10:53 AM, Tracy wrote: >>>> The aero turbine sounded better than the Hushpower II but both change i= n tone over time, probably due to packing deteriorating. Still, the AT was= the best after they stabilized. >>>>=20 >>>> Tracy >>>>=20 >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>=20 >>>>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 11:06, Charlie England wrot= e: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Time to order a muffler. My goal is to keep it inside the cowl (RV-7).= I know, I know, but it looks better, and more important, it *sounds* better= . >>>>>=20 >>>>> I believe that Dennis H. used this: >>>>> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hsh-12412400/overview/ >>>>> I know it sounds great. Dennis, do you remember the weight of just the= resonator? >>>>>=20 >>>>> I know that Tracy is running an Aeroturbine (weight: 6 lbs on the 20B i= n the RV-8, & has talked about how good it sounds: >>>>> http://www.aeroexhaust.com/mufflers/aero-exhaust-at2525.html >>>>>=20 >>>>> They are roughly the same size and price, so I'm wondering how the Aer= oturbine will compare in performance (meaning: killing the harsh harmonics o= f the rotary). >>>>>=20 >>>>> Tracy, you might be the only person who's heard both on a rotary. Base= d on your 20B experience, is it likely to work better than the Hushpower Res= onator on a Renesis? I'll be using a manifold/transition pipe similar to Den= nis' setup to keep everything inside the cowl. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Thanks, >>>>>=20 >>>>> Charlie >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> -- >>>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/= List.html >>>> -- >>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/L= ist.html >>>=20 >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/Li= st.html >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/Lis= t.html >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List= .html