X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-yh0-f45.google.com ([209.85.213.45] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.8) with ESMTPS id 6692706 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 11:56:36 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.213.45; envelope-from=ceengland7@gmail.com Received: by mail-yh0-f45.google.com with SMTP id i57so861780yha.32 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 08:56:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ICW+lBuovnjNdZtrFb59DqNIpRzvwCSV23Ci+XmF1Is=; b=YL1Cab2sEQMLsGkPT8mizBwXNaTbWWwls6f4PoiAe/XAv0l8O/vrkJp15suflcPOTm xeFOLIAZw7u9M/B0WCqcXn9Kr3QdvdniJeqUXtDkBD4WwSEHNck9UvHe8l98ynrVC6JR 3mkNulQXVCSMZo8bWFd1pDvvRQG8oNBU614vMyroYkNBwB0rQrl71BDVRRaYms44j2Do qjeh2Ydw8Ip+eK1RiIo2QjMfBngxH8q4v6zTKkUWPJ9dWw9kjAgl2J+LOrh6BhXccSuV TusRCJ3PzRr7IiVm4fbkhxJierEalndl4d0RW9IEqQHJzh1y04ayXDWcIpYtNhAhop1/ zeiA== X-Received: by 10.236.51.71 with SMTP id a47mr7904427yhc.22.1390064161571; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 08:56:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.10.36] (adsl-98-95-175-240.jan.bellsouth.net. [98.95.175.240]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e50sm25679180yhd.26.2014.01.18.08.56.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 18 Jan 2014 08:56:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52DAB241.90301@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:56:33 -0600 From: Charlie England User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: muffler for Renesis? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, Mark. I discovered that after I sent the previous message. Their web site seems to have a somewhat random 'organization'. Is the non-res model only 20" overall, as they describe? That would make it only slightly longer than the H.P. resonator that Dennis is using, & since it appears to be only a perforated tube in the main cylinder, it should survive much better than anything with actual baffles and/or packing. Charlie On 1/18/2014 9:38 AM, Mark Steitle wrote: > Charlie, > They stock two types, one with packing, one without. The one with packing is their "resonator"model, and it is longer than the non-res model. I bought the non-res model as I figured the packing was only temporary. I have not installed it yet, so no flight report. > > Mark > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jan 18, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Charlie England wrote: >> >> Thanks, Tracy; it's good news that it is both quiet and survives. Didn't realize that the aeroturbine had packing in it. If it performs as well as, or better than the hushpower, I may give it a shot. It's actually a bit cheaper than the h.p. resonator. >> >> Charlie >> >>> On 1/17/2014 10:53 AM, Tracy wrote: >>> The aero turbine sounded better than the Hushpower II but both change in tone over time, probably due to packing deteriorating. Still, the AT was the best after they stabilized. >>> >>> Tracy >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Jan 17, 2014, at 11:06, Charlie England wrote: >>>> >>>> Time to order a muffler. My goal is to keep it inside the cowl (RV-7). I know, I know, but it looks better, and more important, it *sounds* better. >>>> >>>> I believe that Dennis H. used this: >>>> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hsh-12412400/overview/ >>>> I know it sounds great. Dennis, do you remember the weight of just the resonator? >>>> >>>> I know that Tracy is running an Aeroturbine (weight: 6 lbs on the 20B in the RV-8, & has talked about how good it sounds: >>>> http://www.aeroexhaust.com/mufflers/aero-exhaust-at2525.html >>>> >>>> They are roughly the same size and price, so I'm wondering how the Aeroturbine will compare in performance (meaning: killing the harsh harmonics of the rotary). >>>> >>>> Tracy, you might be the only person who's heard both on a rotary. Based on your 20B experience, is it likely to work better than the Hushpower Resonator on a Renesis? I'll be using a manifold/transition pipe similar to Dennis' setup to keep everything inside the cowl. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Charlie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html