X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-gx0-f180.google.com ([209.85.161.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTPS id 5064168 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:59:42 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.161.180; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by gxk10 with SMTP id 10so954027gxk.25 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:59:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:references:from:content-type:x-mailer:in-reply-to :message-id:date:to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=ZOu3plD/FVvaFZv+hnEyLOczqB7hj8j7q5lVzeZzEKk=; b=ohViGyCuuu6pUwtYuu4WE9ZC9eY6vdGMnTkrt9e5x/TxRlQGW6a3t3qPhFGT5wfpAb Pc3kEdfaATj7jEDHsYC79mpim06tWOXAx1e2ZABMIV8F6bPb/UR5CXnT1z9/08PhmdN1 rA6/VY++HOzGLXMAuHgxyQlxYf1uf1flzMvtY= Received: by 10.151.143.14 with SMTP id v14mr6035690ybn.132.1311710348738; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from [10.0.1.3] (99-197-145-127.cust.wildblue.net [99.197.145.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y18sm355766ybn.6.2011.07.26.12.58.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Injector mounting in top of block? References: From: Tracy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-45-543175144 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (8F191) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <35D24714-BBFB-4F5B-A5DA-2F52E2CBF394@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:58:43 -0400 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPad Mail 8F191) --Apple-Mail-45-543175144 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Just guessing, but looking at the location Mazda used on the 16X (intake str= oke region) my guess is that a high pressure injection system would not be r= equired. The standard EFI setup should work fine. The high pressure system= s are needed when the injection point is directly into the combustion chambe= r. Tracy Sent from my iPad On Jul 26, 2011, at 12:48 PM, "wrjjrs@aol.com" wrote: > Bryan, > I looked into this some time ago. I was going to use the system from Orbit= al. They wanted 20k for their development package though. Too much for me. A= s the Siemens systems become more common they may come down in price.=20 > Bill Jepson >=20 > Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless >=20 >=20 > -----Original message----- > From: Bryan Winberry > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Tue, Jul 26, 2011 12:57:09 GMT+00:00 > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Injector mounting in top of block? >=20 > I threw this out some months back. > The replies talked about finding and adapting the high pressure fuel deliv= ery system. Also special injectors. Can=E2=80=99t recall if anyone comment= ed on timing issues. > No one seemed like it was worth tackling. > Bryan > =20 > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Be= half Of shipchief@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 7:59 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Injector mounting in top of block? > =20 > =20 >=20 > I was wondering if anyone had given a thought to mounting a fuel injetor i= n the top of the rotor housing like the 16b concept engine? > They may never get around to selling the 16b to the public, but we could m= od a 13b? > It can't be any tougher than a P Port job? Anyway, it would get the fuel s= ystem a little farther from the exhaust heat, and could run better too? > http://gallery.eaa326.org/v/members/semery/ > Scott --Apple-Mail-45-543175144 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Just guessing, but looking at the locat= ion Mazda used on the 16X (intake stroke region) my guess is that a high pre= ssure injection system would not be required.  The standard EFI setup s= hould work fine.  The high pressure systems are needed when the injecti= on point is directly into the combustion chamber.

T= racy

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On Jul 26, 2011, at 12:48 PM, "<= a href=3D"mailto:wrjjrs@aol.com">wrjjrs@aol.com"<wrjjrs@aol.com> wrote:

Bryan,
I looked into this some time ago. I was going to use the system= from Orbital. They wanted 20k for their development package though. Too muc= h for me. As the Siemens systems become more common they may come down in pr= ice.
Bill Jepson

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-----Original message-----
From: Bryan Winberry <bryanwinberry@bellsouth.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft= <flyrotary@lancaironline.= net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 26, 2011 12:57:09 GMT+00:00
Subje= ct: [FlyRotary] Re: Injector mounting in top of block?

I threw this out some months back.=

The replies talked about finding and adapting the high pressure fuel delivery system.  Also special injector= s.  Can=E2=80=99t recall if anyone commented on timing issues.=

No one seemed like it was worth tacklin= g.

Bryan

 

 

 

I was wondering if anyone had given a thought to mounting a fuel injetor in the top of the rotor housing like the 1= 6b concept engine?

They may never get around to selling the 16b to the public, but we could mod a 13b?<= /span>

It can't be any tougher than a P Port job? Anyway, it would get the fuel system a little farther from the exhaust heat, and could run better too?

Scott

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