X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.146] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTP id 5053447 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 00:40:50 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.105.146; envelope-from=shipchief@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p6G4e7SK025145 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 00:40:07 -0400 Received: from core-ddc003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-ddc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.52.137]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 860D1E000085 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 00:40:07 -0400 (EDT) References: To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: pineapple racing alternator bracket X-AOL-IP: 76.22.118.247 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: shipchief@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CE1189929D0C17_1944_648D3_webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 33953-STANDARD Received: from 76.22.118.247 by webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com (64.12.141.36) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 16 Jul 2011 00:40:07 -0400 Message-Id: <8CE1189927494A6-1944-317D9@webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [76.22.118.247] Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 00:40:07 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:473638016:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29094e21162761cc This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CE1189929D0C17_1944_648D3_webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I Have the Pinapple Racing Alternator mount. I'm using it to hold a Denso M= ini alternator, one of those 1 wire jobs you see on ebai. I also have a Fred Breese engine mount...(what ever happened to Fred?) so I= had to bend the Pineapple mount up a bit to let the alternator clear the m= ount. I thought I had bent it a little crooked, until you mentioned that th= e belt runs crooked.... I have about 5 hours of ground running time. I don't notice any alternator = vibration, however, I locked the alternator down fairly well with two top b= rackets. These alternators only have two mount ears, both at the front, nea= r the pulley end. I was worried about that (loose...essentially the same th= ing as vibration) so I added a second top mount, the slotted arms that you = loosen to pull the alternator while tightening the belt. So I have an alter= nator adjusting bracket on the forward and aft end of the top alternator br= acket, and it seems to hold the alternator enough to prevent vibration. I u= sed shims to align the alternator bracket with the engine pully. I don't really like the bottom mount of the pineapple racing alternator mou= nt, as it seems to be a bit light at the stress point. I'm sure it's mild s= teel, so if there is a problem, I'll add a little material or whatever. I j= ust think it's a great starting point, but not perfect for our use. -----Original Message----- From: Scott To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 6:46 pm Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: pineapple racing alternator bracket I only have a couple of hours of run time, so no observations on if it will= stay true with the other pulley's. I did center it as best I could using = washers as spacers. =20 As you can see in the video( well at least as best the camera's rolling shu= tter or whatever it uses ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dz4RMZwJe2_0=20 the vibrations are what caught my interest. I am going to secure it to the= engine block engine mount I have near there, but haven't really given much= thought as to what it will finally look like. Hence the question if this = was unique to my engine like maybe it was too soft of rubber for the engine= mounts, but since you mentioned you noted the wiggle/jiggle as well it is = likely the design even if it is 1/4" steel. --- On Tue, 7/12/11, Chris Barber wrote: From: Chris Barber Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: pineapple racing alternator bracket To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 12:54 AM I removed it and relocated a smaller second alternator using the original v= acuum pump mount and location. I am currently using the original A/C brack= et with some modifications to mount the A/C that I have installed.. The Pi= neapple bracket did seem to vibrate a bit and seemed to line the alternator= belt slightly out of true. The pineapple bracket I have was purchased by = my friend David Staten (who monitors and post on occasion). I think he wou= ld not mind selling it if someone is interested. The bracket may be fine a= s it is but I may want to brace it a bit. =20 Chris Barber Houston From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of = Scott [squiggles@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 7:08 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] pineapple racing alternator bracket There were a few out there who had used the pineapple alternator relocating= bracket while they made them...=20 If you are out there and noted the vibration characteristics it would be he= lpful if you could share your experience. Thank You. -Scott ----------MB_8CE1189929D0C17_1944_648D3_webmail-m078.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
I Have the Pinapple Racing Alternator mount. I'm using it to hold a De= nso Mini alternator, one of those 1 wire jobs you see on ebai.
I also have a Fred Breese engine mount...(what ever happened to Fred?)= so I had to bend the Pineapple mount up a bit to let the alternator clear = the mount. I thought I had bent it a little crooked, until you mentioned th= at the belt runs crooked....
I have about 5 hours of ground running time. I don't notice any altern= ator vibration, however, I locked the alternator down fairly well with two = top brackets. These alternators only have two mount ears, both at the front= , near the pulley end. I was worried about that (loose...essentially the sa= me thing as vibration) so I added a second top mount, the slotted arms that= you loosen to pull the alternator while tightening the belt. So I have an = alternator adjusting bracket on the forward and aft end of the top alternat= or bracket, and it seems to hold the alternator enough to prevent vibration= . I used shims to align the alternator bracket with the engine pully.
I don't really like the bottom mount of the pineapple racing alternato= r mount, as it seems to be a bit light at the stress point. I'm sure it's m= ild steel, so if there is a problem, I'll add a little material or whatever= . I just think it's a great starting point, but not perfect for our use.


= -----Original Message-----
From: Scott <squiggles@yahoo.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2011 6:46 pm
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: pineapple racing alternator bracket

I only have a couple of hours of run time, so no observati= ons on if it will stay true with the other pulley's.  I did center it = as best I could using washers as spacers. 

As you can see in the video( well at least as best the camera's rolling shu= tter or whatever it uses )
ht= tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dz4RMZwJe2_0
the vibrations are what caught my interest.  I am going to secure it t= o the engine block engine mount I have near there, but haven't really given= much thought as to what it will finally look like.  Hence the questio= n if this was unique to my engine like maybe it was too soft of rubber for = the engine mounts, but since you mentioned you noted the wiggle/jiggle as w= ell it is likely the design even if it is 1/4" steel.



--- On Tue, 7/12/11, Chris Barber <cbarber@texasattorney.net> wrote:

From: Chris Barber <cbarber= @texasattorney.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: pineapple racing alternator bracket
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 12:54 AM

I removed it and relocated a smaller second alternator using the origi= nal vacuum pump mount and location.  I am currently using the original= A/C bracket with some modifications to mount the A/C that I have installed= ..  The Pineapple bracket did seem to vibra= te a bit and seemed to line the alternator belt slightly out of true. =  The pineapple b= racket I have was purchased by my friend David Staten (who monitors and pos= t on occasion).  I think he would not mind selling it if someone is in= terested.  The bracket may be fine as it is but I may want to brace it= a bit.
 
Chris Barber
Houston
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = on behalf of Scott [squiggles@yahoo.= com]
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 7:08 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] pineapple racing alternator bracket

There were a few out there who had used the pineapple alte= rnator relocating bracket while they made them...=20

If you are out there and noted the vibration characteristics it would = be helpful if you could share your experience.

Thank You.
-Scott
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