X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-vw0-f52.google.com ([209.85.212.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.0) with ESMTPS id 5041343 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 15:42:53 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.212.52; envelope-from=dmlobner@gmail.com Received: by vws16 with SMTP id 16so3554319vws.25 for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 12:42:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=lcEw1iPYXTQWDyGx/ffT7p1+rSLQPIN08fz3HAI0bNg=; b=MOqLoXO0zpzjbVByTq20X3zl41oS7avXqTpzCax4TSLs0biW54iGZVrdGgaTKN7GUp W7I5pdwe3R31l+aDCN1e96Uk/NmB2QjdHOrTtIMVCMXjfK1SK49byUcpVwl2nzvhxEdy vTykglD9V8RY8uqCsJEuE1qqLO5izp8gCiByQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.113.194 with SMTP id ja2mr7218740vdb.300.1309722085191; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 12:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.182.228 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 12:41:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 14:41:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: VNE / Flutter Testing From: Dustin Lobner To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5485e02a4719e04a72f6ff8 --bcaec5485e02a4719e04a72f6ff8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I read somewhere (I can't recall, sorry) that basically you speed up a couple of knots, let go of the stick, and then bump it forward and see what happens (being ready to grab it in a hurry). the the same with elevator, rudder, and aileron. Speed up a couple of more knots, try it again. The idea is that you can have a "metastable" situation where there is no flutter until a gust of wind comes by, at which point you're 30 knots over where it can happen, so it happens in a hurry. Creating the disturbance yourself prevents it from being a metastable condition. Dustin On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Ernest Christley wrote: > ** > On 07/03/2011 03:24 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote: > > Ernest, > The procedure is to test with many steps increasing speed in small > increments always ready > to reduce throttle and increase AOA at the slightest indication of > flutter.............. > > > > Dang! I was hoping somebody had come up with something better than that. > > Oh, well. At least that gives me a "reason" to take up parachuting 8*) > --bcaec5485e02a4719e04a72f6ff8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I read somewhere (I can't recall, sorry) that basically you speed up a = couple of knots, let go of the stick, and then bump it forward and see what= happens (being ready to grab it in a hurry).=A0 the the same with elevator= , rudder, and aileron.=A0 Speed up a couple of more knots, try it again.
The idea is that you can have a "metastable" situation where = there is no flutter until a gust of wind comes by, at which point you'r= e 30 knots over where it can happen, so it happens in a hurry.=A0 Creating = the disturbance yourself prevents it from being a metastable condition.

Dustin

On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 2:29 PM= , Ernest Christley <echristley@nc.rr.com> wrote:
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On 07/03/2011 03:24 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote:
Ernest,
=A0=A0 The procedure is to test with many steps increasing speed in small increments always ready
to reduce throttle and increase=A0AOA=A0at the slightest indication of flutter..............
=A0

Dang!=A0 I was hoping somebody had come up with something better than that.

Oh, well.=A0 At least that gives me a "reason" to take up par= achuting 8*)

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