X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-fx0-f52.google.com ([209.85.161.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2) with ESMTPS id 4902057 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:11:55 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.161.52; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by fxm6 with SMTP id 6so113211fxm.25 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:11:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RMmruTSFBa7pIJC0FlByR3k+nuNlGHVwJXooJJSVFg4=; b=wZ8GKU51c0MQ1XKUghLC9pfot+gH/+xZQhEt9/llZG2OuKbaDM2LPYlfvba1hyDvzQ VCn4olfkHDVLNzmoJsGHGqEjHetYlpKyR3kgUYa0ADpNWNCcZqCzy8sx8Rj0vWtp2zcx 2jh6JUi55HZ8W084Bh38Tbdx9qGrNJgXXB8M4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nI5SmgrCiB56+7WvWlZ07XDx8I1E3TGogQhlLAuuhFt3doaIr6UwJbE0J/XTXEpojp TSP7NYj9dgm8E1FnNrphWvbF18vzD/Tq7jwauOS8qsefMAiBVBmGWNre0TICSF2PnQM+ VN5YxNypcl0avSQgS+iC1MEeTqmtoCXnehdA8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.58.72 with SMTP id f8mr462247fah.137.1299773462252; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:11:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.71.195 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:11:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:11:02 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re Miss above staging point From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174767fa818e03049e2317e4 --0015174767fa818e03049e2317e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff, Welcome back to the real world. Regarding pre-mixing of the 2-stroke, my airplane hold 94 gallons, (47 gallons per tank). I try to refuel when I am at least 64 gallons down, adding 32 gallons/tank, so that I can just pou= r in one quart of 2-stroke (per tank) while pumping the 100LL. I ran it a bi= t lower than usual this time, taking 37 gallons in the left tank and 32 in th= e right, so I added another 5 ounces to the left tank from a 3rd bottle. While some rotorheads mix a bit leaner (3/4 oz/gal), I mix one ounce of 2-stroke per gallon. Mark On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Jeff Whaley wrote: > First, I=92ve been away for 2 weeks in the Caribbean, so just catching u= p =85 > some interesting reading about the staging and injector lag issue by Stev= e > Boese. > > > > And Mark, my math (75 G * 4 qts / 2 qts) says you are mixing at 150:1 =85 > seems a bit light. > > Perhaps I=92m mixing too strong 22 L / .2 L =3D 110:1, one Gerry can at t= time. > > Jeff > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Mark Steitle > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Sent:* Mon, March 7, 2011 5:12:46 AM > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Miss above staging point. > > Bill, > > > > One quart =3D 32 oz. So I added a little over 2 qts (1 qt./tank) along w= ith > 75 gal. of fuel (37 gal/tank). As I figure, that is approx. 1 oz/gal. T= hat > is the ratio of oil/fuel I've always used. > > > > As for switching from mogas, I switched because a year ago the %$#@%&^ > government bureaucrats mandated that all gas stations in Texas switch to = 10% > ethanol for all grades of fuel. As I've heard from others on the Lancair > list, ethanol will attack and soften the adhesive used to bond the wings > together. When that happens the tanks will begin to leak, or worse. I'v= e > searched and searched for non-ethanol mogas in my area and the closest th= at > I could find is at a marina about 75 miles away from where I live, or 125 > miles from where I keep the airplane... not a workable solution. So, for > now, I'm stuck with 100LL. The engine runs fine on 100LL and it doesn't > mess with the integrity of the wings. It just costs me an extra $100 to > fill 'er up. I try not to think about it. > > > > Mark > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 5942 (20110310) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > This message, and the documents attached hereto, is intended only for the > addressee and may contain privileged or confidential information. Any > unauthorized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > message in error, please notify us immediately so that we may correct our > internal records. Please then delete the original message. Thank you. > --0015174767fa818e03049e2317e4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jeff,
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Welcome back to the real world.=A0 Regarding pre-mixing of the 2-strok= e, my=A0airplane hold 94 gallons, (47 gallons per tank).=A0 I=A0try to refu= el when I am at least=A064 gallons down, adding 32 gallons/tank,=A0so that = I can just pour in one quart of 2-stroke (per tank)=A0while pumping the 100= LL.=A0=A0I ran it a bit lower than usual this time,=A0taking 37 gallons=A0i= n the left tank and 32 in the right, so I added another 5 ounces to the lef= t tank from a 3rd=A0bottle.=A0 While some=A0rotorheads mix a bit leaner (3/= 4 oz/gal), I mix one ounce of 2-stroke per gallon.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
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Mark

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Jeff Whaley <jwhaley@datacast= .com> wrote:

First, I=92ve been away for 2 weeks in the Caribbean= , so just catching up =85 some interesting reading about the staging and in= jector lag issue by Steve Boese.

=A0

And Mark, my math (75 G * 4 qts / 2 qts) says you ar= e mixing at 150:1 =85 seems a bit light.

Perhaps I=92m mixing too strong 22 L / .2 L =3D 110:= 1, one Gerry can at t time.

Jeff

=A0

From:<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net&g= t;
Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 5:12:46 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] R= e: Miss above staging point.

B= ill,

=A0

One quart =3D 32 oz. = =A0So I added a little over 2 qts (1 qt./tank) along with 75 gal. of fuel (= 37 gal/tank). =A0As I figure, that is approx. 1 oz/gal. =A0That is the rati= o of oil/fuel I've always used.=A0

=A0

As for switching from= mogas, I switched because a year ago the %$#@%&^ government=A0bureaucr= ats=A0mandated that all gas stations in Texas switch to 10% ethanol for all= grades of fuel. =A0As I've heard from others on the Lancair list, etha= nol will attack and soften the adhesive used to bond the wings together. = =A0When that happens the tanks will begin to leak, or worse. =A0I've se= arched and searched for non-ethanol mogas in my area and the closest that I= could find is at a marina about 75 miles away from where I live, or 125 mi= les from where I keep the airplane... not a workable solution. =A0So, for n= ow, I'm stuck with 100LL. =A0The engine runs fine on 100LL and it doesn= 't mess with the integrity of the wings. =A0It just costs me an extra $= 100 to fill 'er up. =A0I try not to think about it. =A0

=A0

Mark

=A0



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