X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.123] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2o) with ESMTP id 4894842 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 09:33:14 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.123; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Return-Path: X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=uESSSoDEku2quKX/oFXS2Smn5+55LTFcWFr5T5T8nFs= c=1 sm=0 a=xkBeINLIag0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=rPkcCx1H5rrOSfN0dPC7kw==:17 a=arxwEM4EAAAA:8 a=r1ClD_H3AAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=E5sTbL595iaN8eui2ekA:9 a=5Vg0RcgvW_4Cum9h_QYA:7 a=vc9zXDl1ptKScrxKOIV17U4oBLMA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=rPkcCx1H5rrOSfN0dPC7kw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 174.110.167.5 Received: from [174.110.167.5] ([174.110.167.5:63253] helo=EdPC) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A9/CD-07087-60E367D4; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 14:32:38 +0000 Message-ID: <9B2574E1F0794D1A893010E7E83CD552@EdPC> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] staging and tuning Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 09:32:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 Well written and understandable bit of analysis, Steve. I discovered by observing the O2 mixture that my "bog" at the staging point was caused by the mixture going too lean(I have same size primary/secondary injectors). Through trial and error I found that I could eliminate the bog by enrichen the mixture at that point by increasing the fuel map values for a few EC2 bins after the staging point. This eliminated my bog, however, I never understood why it should be necessary, now thanks to your work and analysis, I do. Ed Edward L. Anderson Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC 305 Reefton Road Weddington, NC 28104 http://www.andersonee.com http://www.eicommander.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Steven W. Boese" Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 7:49 PM To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: [FlyRotary] staging and tuning > Bill and anyone else interested: > > The issues involved with mixture changes when the EC2 controller stages > can be understood by considering two simple concepts: > > 1. The first is the concept of injector lag, also referred to as injector > latency and injector dead time, as well as other names. The fuel > injectors are not perfect. They do not instantaneously respond to the > controller pulse. That is, they take a measurable time to open after the > application of the pulse and they take a measurable time to close after > the pulse ends. These two times are not equal and the result is that the > injector flows fuel for a smaller period of time than the injector pulse > width. In addition, the injector flow rate is changing during the opening > and closing time periods. Measurements of the amount of fuel delivered as > a function of pulse width show that the deficit in the amount of fuel > delivered for any pulse is the same whether the pulse width is long or > short. For stock 40 lb Mazda injectors with a fuel pressure of 40 psi and > a system voltage of 13 volts, this loss in the amount of fuel delivered > corresponds to an injector lag or dead time of about 1.2 ms. > > This 1.2 ms is not trivial. Consider a rotary engine running at 6000 rpm. > The time it takes for one revolution is 10 ms. Limiting the injector > pulse to an 80% duty cycle limits the injector pulse width to 8 ms. The > effect of the injector lag is to decrease the amount of fuel delivered by > 1.2/8 x 100 or 15% at 8 ms pulse width, 1.2/4 x 100 or 30% at 4 ms pulse > width, and 1.2/1.2 x 100 or 100% at 1.2 ms pulse width. It is obvious > that the shorter the pulse width, the larger the fuel deficit. > > 2. The second concept to realize is that the EC2 controller does not take > injector lag into account. This has been demonstrated with my EC2's at > default settings by measuring the injector pulse width on either side of > the staging transition. It has also been demonstrated by pulse width > measurements taken when engaging the injector back up function where the > change from using two to using four injectors is forced to occur without a > change in manifold pressure or change in MAP table address. These > measurements show that, before tuning, the EC2 staging transition is a > transition to using all the injectors at half the pre-transition pulse > width. The essential point here is that even if the primary and secondary > injectors are the same size, staging, by using twice as many injectors at > half the pulse width does not result in the same fuel flow, but rather a > substantial fuel flow decrease. Using the above data, this is easily seen > by considering what would happen if staging took place at an initial pulse > width of 1.2 ms. After staging, the fuel flow would then be zero. > > > Before tuning and with primary and secondary injectors of the same size, > the effect of injector lag is always for the controller to deliver less > fuel than it calculates as being needed. This problem becomes > progressively worse as the injector pulse width decreases. When the > secondary injector flow rating is larger than that of the primary > injectors, the mixture change due to staging, while predictable, is not > intuitive. This is because the tendency to go lean due to the injector > lag effect accompanying the pulse width being cut in half is now combined > with the tendency to go rich due to the two larger injectors now in use. > Whether the mixture goes leaner, richer, or is unchanged upon staging > depends not only on the difference in the primary and secondary injector > flow ratings but also upon the conditions (initial pulse width) under > which staging takes place. > > The discussion which follows is for the case of equal sized primary and > secondary injectors and initial tuning starting with default parameters: > > The percent decrease in fuel flow upon staging is most severe for low > initial fuel flow rates. This explains the difficulty in achieving a > smooth staging process if the staging threshold is set too low. Even for > reasonable initial fuel flow rates in the range of 6 to 10 gal/hr, the > fuel flow will decrease significantly. If the mixture is rich enough when > staging takes place, the decrease in fuel flow may not result in a large > change in engine power output. However, if the mixture is already > somewhat lean when staging occurs, the mixture may become very lean and > result in a marked decrease in power. > > I've used three methods to compensate for the injector lag. > > 1. The first method is to follow the instructions in the manual. Tuning > is started by adjusting modes 3 and 2. After modes 3 and 2 have been > adjusted, then mode 1 or 9 is used to adjust the mixture correction table. > Tuning the mixture correction table can compensate for the fuel flow > decrease on staging caused by injector lag. This results in a > discontinuity in the correction table at staging. Since defining the step > in the mixture table can be difficult, programming the mixture somewhat > rich across this region is helpful. Cruise operation at MAP values close > to the staging threshold then simply requires some adjustment of the > manual mixture control. Because of the step in the mixture table at the > staging point, changing the staging threshold also requires retuning of > the mixture table in this region. Tuning the rest of the table compensates > for other factors such as changes in volumetric efficiency in addition to > injector lag. Injector lag affects tuning of the entire table although it > is just not as obvious as its effect on staging. > > 2. A second way to compensate for the effect of injector lag on staging > is to use the mode 6 secondary injector differential adjustment even with > primary and secondary injectors of matched flow rates. Since the mode 6 > setting only has effect above the staging threshold, and since the effect > of injector lag is to make the injectors act as if they became smaller > upon staging, mode 6 can be used to eliminate the step in the mixture > correction table. This is possible because mode 6 has the ability to > compensate for smaller as well as larger secondary injectors compared to > the primaries. Compensation for the effect of injector lag and other > factors is still necessary throughout the table, but the changes are > gradual and much easier to implement than a discontinuity. This method > removes the injector lag effect upon staging and works quite well. > > The tuning procedure then becomes the same whether the primary and > secondary injector flow rates are different or identical: > > a. Set the staging threshold at a MAP corresponding to the high end of > the primary injector flow limit using mode 7. (For 40 lb injectors, about > 20" MAP works well.) > > b. Adjust Mode 3 to get a mid scale O2 sensor reading at a MAP just below > the staging threshold MAP. > > c. Adjust mode 6 to get a mid scale O2 sensor reading at a MAP just above > the staging threshold MAP. > > d. Adjust mode 2 for best operation at minimum idle MAP. > > e. Adjust the mixture table throughout the useable MAP range using mode 1 > or 9 to keep the O2 sensor reading mid scale. (To be honest, I skip step > "e" and simply use the manual mixture control to adjust the mixture in > cruise.) > > > Steve Boese > RV6A 1986 13B NA RD1A EC2 > > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >