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Mark,
My bad! I started with the assumption
that there were 64 oz in a quart. I had forgotten that you guys in Texas went back to the
regular size quart a while back! :>)
I am having the same problem finding Mogas
around here with no alcohol in it. A lot of the marinas around have the gas,
but it is not too cheap and I still have to haul it to the plane. I have a
trailer with a couple of 55 gal drums on it that I use to haul. The last I bought
was $3.44 a gal. from a distributor 10 miles from the airport. I shudder to
think what the next batch will cost.
There is an airport, Winter Haven, 50 miles SSW from here that has
Mogas for $3.95 on AirNav today. I am restricted to 25 mile radius till I get
10 hours, then it goes to 100 miles for the balance of the 40 hours. I will be
able to fly down there after I get the 10 hours.
Bill
From: Rotary motors in aircraft
[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 6:13
AM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Miss
above staging point.
Bill,
One quart = 32 oz. So I added a little over 2 qts (1 qt./tank)
along with 75 gal. of fuel (37 gal/tank). As I figure, that is approx. 1
oz/gal. That is the ratio of oil/fuel I've always used.
As for switching from mogas, I switched because a year ago the
%$#@%&^ government bureaucrats mandated that all gas stations in Texas switch to 10%
ethanol for all grades of fuel. As I've heard from others on the Lancair
list, ethanol will attack and soften the adhesive used to bond the wings
together. When that happens the tanks will begin to leak, or worse.
I've searched and searched for non-ethanol mogas in my area and the
closest that I could find is at a marina about 75 miles away from where I live,
or 125 miles from where I keep the airplane... not a workable solution.
So, for now, I'm stuck with 100LL. The engine runs fine on 100LL
and it doesn't mess with the integrity of the wings. It just costs me an
extra $100 to fill 'er up. I try not to think about it.
Mark
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Mark,
Really sounds like a great day. I hope you are still
remembering it when that credit card bill comes in! :>) There is
a downside to getting the plane flying! Gas Prices!
So why did you go away from Mogas and do the more expensive
100LL? Also why so much 2 stroke oil? You seem to be mixing at
about 2 oz per gal. Are you getting oil into your crankcase at that
level? I am using ¾ to 1 oz and I get drops flicked onto the bottom of
the plane from the exhaust.
If I can get this tuning issue resolved, I plan to try and fly
tomorrow.
Bill B
From: Rotary motors in aircraft
[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
On Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 9:12
PM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Miss
above staging point.
Bill,
Yes, today was a
perfect day to fly in Central Texas, mild
temps, practically zero wind, and severe clear. Since I needed fuel, I
decided to fly down to my favorite fuel stop, Halletsville, TX
(3T5) to gas up. It is about 45 miles SE from Lockhart. I had about
12 gallons in each tank, so it was time to re-fuel. Well, I flew over and
landed at 3T5, taxi up to the pump, and guess what.... the pumps were out of
order. @$#%&%$ OK, now I have about 19 gallons and need to find
some fuel. So, I head over to Fayette Regional (34R) (our favorite BBQ
spot) about 30 miles due north. It wasn't the closest airport, but I know
that they have fuel there, and their pumps work! I flew up to 34R and
landed with about 15 gallons left in the two tanks, not too risky, but the
least amount of fuel I've ever flown with to date. Well, the pumps at 34R
were working and I pumped in 75 gallons and added over 2 qts of 2-stroke oil.
After almost maxing out my credit card, I taxied out, did a run-up,
rolled out onto the active, and flew back to my home base, Lockhart. So,
all I accomplished was filling the tanks and burning 15 gallons of 100LL, but
had a great time doing it. It was kind of like going for a $100
hamburger, except without the burger.
The p-port 20b ran
flawlessly. Oil and coolant temps were below 160*F the whole way.
Engine didn't miss a beat while cruising along at 197mph (per EM-2) @
5100rpm (M/T prop dialed down to full coarse). I must say, the new LS2
coils sure appear to have cured the occasional intermittent mis-fire problem.
The engine just hummed along as sweet as pie. As they say, life
doesn't get any better than this. You guys/gals that haven't yet flown,
don't dismay, your time is coming.
Lancair ES, N/A
P-Port 20B
Lockhart, Tx
On Sun, Mar 6,
2011 at 6:21 PM, Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Did you fly! We need a report!
Bill B
From: Rotary motors in aircraft
[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
On Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 9:03
AM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Miss
above staging point.
Bill,
Maybe Lynn can comment on this,
but personally I don't sandblast plugs. My suggestion is to replace the
plugs with new ones. Most of my mis-fire problems have been cured by
either tuning or new spark plugs.
P.S. Its a
beautiful Spring day in Austin
and I'm heading to the airport (will fly, assuming everything checks
out).
On Sun, Mar 6,
2011 at 7:14 AM, Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Mark,
The car the engine came from had about 1400 miles on it. I
have run about 40 gallons of gas thru it. I will have to check the coils
for darkening. Also same for plug wires. I am using the stock
Renesis plugs. I might try cleaning them.
On a previous occasion, I flooded the engine and it would not start
till I sand blasted the plugs. After that it started normally.
This problem just happened on the second takeoff. The engine
was running smoothly at all rpms till I made the second takeoff. It
started to miss and pop and the rpm would only go to about 6300. after I
got in the air, I dialed the prop back and the rpm was around 6000 and the
engine smoothed out again and was ok the rest of the flight. Now it is
missing on the ground above the staging point. I have mine set at 16
inches.
I watched the mixture and it seems fine on both sides of the
staging point and also on up in the higher rpms. The only difference is
that the engine starts to miss.erratically. I didn’t notice the EGT
as Tracy
suggested. I need to switch to the page that shows the temp of both of
them and check that today.
Bill
From: Rotary motors in aircraft
[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
On Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011
9:50 PM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Miss
above staging point.
Bill,
How do the coils
look (underneath)? Are there dark areas in the potting material where
they have gotten hot? There is a history of coil failures in the RX-8's
after about 30k miles.
How many hours on
the plugs/wires? How do they look?
Mark
On Sat, Mar 5,
2011 at 8:36 PM, Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Mark,
I have the stock Renesis coils.
Bill B
From: Rotary motors in aircraft
[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
On Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011
6:19 PM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Miss
above staging point.
Bill,
Which coils are
you running? I chased an intermittent miss which occurred in the 6000
-7000 range. I upgraded to the LS2 "Yukon" coils and the miss was gone.
Mark S.
On Sat, Mar 5,
2011 at 4:56 PM, Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net> wrote:
I have developed a miss above the staging point. The fuel pressure
seems ok, the mixture also seems ok. I am at a loss.
To try and troubleshoot, I am considering getting above the staging
point and disabling the primaries and secondaries to see if I can identify
which is the cause. Since it runs ok below the stage, I assume it is not
the primaries.
I recently changed my fuel filters and installed a large canister
filter. There seems a possibility that I introduced some
contamination that clogged an injector. Other wise it seems it must be
spark related. This just happened one flight ago. The engine was
running fine, till that last takeoff. It was missing and would only get
about 6300 rpm. After take off, I turned the prop back and slowed the
engine down to below that number and it smoothed out and ran fine the res of
the flight. Today while taxiing around, I noticed that the miss was back.
Opinions welcomed.
Bill B
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