X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from eastrmfepo202.cox.net ([68.230.241.217] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2o) with ESMTP id 4892173 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 16:14:47 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.217; envelope-from=tmann@n200lz.com Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20110305211414.KXCL32466.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 16:14:14 -0500 Received: from DSS03 ([98.168.254.7]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id FZED1g0010ALyG202ZEDQY; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 16:14:14 -0500 X-VR-Score: -150.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3DycxFz7LYwejFb72c0tHsHd63lyQiqf3MoSUOBRIck= c=1 sm=1 a=u3n+HnEbI1wdzZeyJY7NnA==:17 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=aqbCFVM2AAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=8zQUuL7jLbXYJh6yxk8A:9 a=cg-XjkpGPA6Lfdr4xd4A:7 a=4icoEtfeIkad9UvTuAcXKFjDIK8A:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Tr8nuKu5vpAA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=c9EzqnwR0tUA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=JQal_W4_LWTaOqes:21 a=4IeQUIKjva25WXA1:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=cROR6hv_js8rXaFZhcgA:9 a=UhRIRrQfnUtUpYXsBcYA:7 a=4g6hQi6Mv2uaichQWfJpnXd4Po4A:4 a=LKrNbxkub7wA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=a8hqBklCRV1BSeEE:21 a=iBBmJ3pk9enQbHO6:21 a=u3n+HnEbI1wdzZeyJY7NnA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Message-ID: <29E3A8D9897647D99379268A37B5E314@DSS03> From: "Thomas Mann" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: 20B Numbers? Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 15:14:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_025F_01CBDB47.F7BB2870" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3502.922 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3502.922 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_025F_01CBDB47.F7BB2870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have C438 . We must be okay! From: Marc Wiese=20 Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 2:22 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B Numbers? 20B MAZDA in black outline paint; C927 on all three rotor = housings=E2=80=A6. Marc =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of Thomas Giddings Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:57 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Numbers? =20 Here you go everyone: The engine should be stamped on all the rotor = housings and sideplates. Look on the top of the rotor housings where is = says "Mazda 20B" Pre A code: 3 digit numbers only, no letter A code : Letter A and 3 digit # B code : Letter B and 3 digit # All of the above are small dowel pin land motors C code: letter C and 3 digit # D code : letter D and 3 digit # The C and D code have the upgraded sideplates, thicker dowel pin lands. = Approx: 4mm thicker On Mar 3, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote: Thomas, Share some of your new found info on the 20B with the = group............ =20 Kelly Troyer "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) "13B ROTARY"_ Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- From: Thomas Giddings To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 5:23:15 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Numbers? Thanks Kelley....Your right...Brian knows his stuff...I have a very = early 20B=20 =20 Tom On Mar 3, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote: Thomas, Try Brian Galloway in Calif.........He deals in Mazda parts and is = very knowledgeable in the 20B models and the differences between them.........Improvements = were made in the year models............For our use in aircraft the upgrades probably are = not as important as we are not severely stressing our engines like the racers (Auto) = do.........I do know that the later model 20B's sell at a premium...........The last time I = corresponded with him he had both early and late 20B's for sale............I bought a 20B auto trans = bell housing from him (My 13B "Cosmo" uses it between Tracy's RD1C and engine like "Bulent" of = this group .....See photo) attached)..........FWIW =20 Brian Galloway =20 =20 Kelly Troyer "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) "13B ROTARY"_ Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- From: Thomas Giddings To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 9:02:41 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Numbers? On a similar topic...does anyone know how to identify which year 20B I = have? I was told ,but have no real way of knowing . On Mar 3, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Kelly Troyer wrote: Pat, If your core engine still has the waterpump on it count the number = of bolts on the pump........86-88 13B has 7 WP bolts...........89-91 has 8 WP = bolts..... =20 93-95 13B has an all aluminum WP.......This is quick and dirty but = there are other ways if WP is missing...........The 86-91 WP is cast iron bolted = to alum housing......... =20 Kelly Troyer "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) "13B ROTARY"_ Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- From: Pat Panzera To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 7:37:54 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Numbers? Hey gang, I have a core engine I need to identify. Are there any numbers on the web I can look up? Thanks! Pat -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html =20 -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_025F_01CBDB47.F7BB2870 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have C438 .
We must be okay!
 
From: Marc Wiese
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 2:22 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B Numbers?
 

20B MAZDA = in black=20 outline paint; C927 on all three rotor = housings=E2=80=A6.

Marc

 

From: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Thomas = Giddings
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:57 PM
To: = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re:=20 Numbers?

 

Here you go everyone: = The engine=20 should be stamped on all the rotor housings and sideplates. Look on the = top of=20 the rotor housings where is says "Mazda 20B"


Pre A code: 3=20 digit  numbers only, no letter
A code : Letter A and 3 digit = #
B code=20 : Letter B and 3 digit #
All of the above are small dowel pin land=20 motors

C code: letter C and 3 digit #
D code : letter D and 3 = digit=20 #

The C and D code have the upgraded sideplates, thicker dowel = pin lands.=20 Approx: 4mm thicker

On Mar 3, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Kelly Troyer=20 wrote:



Thomas,

    =20 Share some of your new found info on the 20B with the=20 group............
 

Kelly=20 Troyer
"DYKE = DELTA=20 JD2"=20 (Eventually)

"13B=20 ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil=20 Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50=20 Turbo

 

 

From: Thomas = Giddings=20 <tom@midwestaviation.net>To:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent:=20 Thu, March 3, 2011 5:23:15 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re:=20 Numbers?

Thanks Kelley....Your right...Brian knows his = stuff...I=20 have a very early 20B

 

Tom

On Mar 3, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Kelly Troyer=20 wrote:



Thomas,

    =20 Try Brian Galloway in Calif.........He deals in Mazda parts and is very=20 knowledgeable in

the 20B = models and=20 the differences between them.........Improvements were made in=20 the

year=20 models............For our use in aircraft the upgrades probably are not = as=20 important as

we are not = severely=20 stressing our engines like the racers (Auto) do.........I do know that=20 the

later model = 20B's=20 sell at a premium...........The last time I corresponded with him he=20 had

both early = and late=20 20B's for sale............I bought a 20B auto trans bell housing from=20 him

(My 13B = "Cosmo" uses=20 it between Tracy's RD1C and engine like "Bulent" of this=20 group

.....See = photo)=20 attached)..........FWIW

 

Brian = Galloway <ss427bb@hotmail.com>

 


 

Kelly=20 Troyer
"DYKE = DELTA=20 JD2" (Eventually)

"13B=20 ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil=20 Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50=20 Turbo

 

 

From: Thomas = Giddings=20 <tom@midwestaviation.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 9:02:41=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary]=20 Re: Numbers?

On a=20 similar topic...does anyone know how to identify which year 20B I have? = I was=20 told ,but have no real way of knowing .

On Mar = 3, 2011, at=20 9:37 AM, Kelly Troyer wrote:



Pat,

    =20 If your core engine still has the waterpump on it count the number of=20 bolts

on the=20 pump........86-88 13B has 7 WP bolts...........89-91 has 8 WP=20 bolts.....

 

   =20 93-95 13B has an all aluminum WP.......This is quick and dirty but there = are

other ways = if WP is=20 missing...........The 86-91 WP is cast iron bolted to=20 alum

housing.........

 

Kelly=20 Troyer
"DYKE = DELTA=20 JD2" (Eventually)

"13B=20 ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil=20 Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50=20 Turbo

 

 

From: Pat = Panzera <editor.contactmagazine@gmail.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 7:37:54=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary]=20 Numbers?

Hey = gang,

I=20 have a core engine I need to identify.
Are there any numbers on the = web I can=20 look up?

Thanks!

Pat

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