X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mta31.charter.net ([216.33.127.82] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2o) with ESMTP id 4892161 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 15:23:14 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.33.127.82; envelope-from=cardmarc@charter.net Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20110305202239.CRDF12685.mta31.charter.net@imp10> for ; Sat, 5 Mar 2011 15:22:39 -0500 Received: from HomeDesktop ([97.94.193.28]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id FYNf1g0070dDVdd05YNfst; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 15:22:39 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=5E2x7M4BN8ifZ7mKLpl2apiSdSD7x3Zc9cw7NnVU0uY= c=1 sm=1 a=FgsgaH--Sn4A:10 a=4sash9Gc6afUAQh1p1CCVg==:17 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=aqbCFVM2AAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=RsfBbSEcwrh3ax4q0ukA:9 a=I5m6Qa3rC-wdc2KO5XQA:7 a=CMAOKLuY87Rp4Jd1D47oL3bLs6oA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Tr8nuKu5vpAA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=c9EzqnwR0tUA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=-J5JpzhJGM467uQi:21 a=OoodedihK1CHZ_A4:21 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=cJI8pIRVcfoCajsHDgAA:9 a=xyKX2Oo3O66eDP36Ta8A:7 a=EqkjnKCYMqK9rnhi-85kCaBSD0gA:4 a=LKrNbxkub7wA:10 a=4sash9Gc6afUAQh1p1CCVg==:117 From: "Marc Wiese" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B Numbers? Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 14:22:38 -0600 Message-ID: <034401cbdb73$12ca7050$385f50f0$@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0345_01CBDB40.C834BB40" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AcvbcxJoaY8cB98XTdeV/yNlHRelhw== Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0345_01CBDB40.C834BB40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 20B MAZDA in black outline paint; C927 on all three rotor housings.. Marc From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Thomas Giddings Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:57 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Numbers? Here you go everyone: The engine should be stamped on all the rotor housings and sideplates. Look on the top of the rotor housings where is says "Mazda 20B" Pre A code: 3 digit numbers only, no letter A code : Letter A and 3 digit # B code : Letter B and 3 digit # All of the above are small dowel pin land motors C code: letter C and 3 digit # D code : letter D and 3 digit # The C and D code have the upgraded sideplates, thicker dowel pin lands. Approx: 4mm thicker On Mar 3, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote: Thomas, Share some of your new found info on the 20B with the group............ Kelly Troyer "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) "13B ROTARY"_ Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo _____ From: Thomas Giddings To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 5:23:15 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Numbers? Thanks Kelley....Your right...Brian knows his stuff...I have a very early 20B Tom On Mar 3, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote: Thomas, Try Brian Galloway in Calif.........He deals in Mazda parts and is very knowledgeable in the 20B models and the differences between them.........Improvements were made in the year models............For our use in aircraft the upgrades probably are not as important as we are not severely stressing our engines like the racers (Auto) do.........I do know that the later model 20B's sell at a premium...........The last time I corresponded with him he had both early and late 20B's for sale............I bought a 20B auto trans bell housing from him (My 13B "Cosmo" uses it between Tracy's RD1C and engine like "Bulent" of this group .....See photo) attached)..........FWIW Brian Galloway Kelly Troyer "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) "13B ROTARY"_ Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo _____ From: Thomas Giddings To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 9:02:41 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Numbers? On a similar topic...does anyone know how to identify which year 20B I have? I was told ,but have no real way of knowing . On Mar 3, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Kelly Troyer wrote: Pat, If your core engine still has the waterpump on it count the number of bolts on the pump........86-88 13B has 7 WP bolts...........89-91 has 8 WP bolts..... 93-95 13B has an all aluminum WP.......This is quick and dirty but there are other ways if WP is missing...........The 86-91 WP is cast iron bolted to alum housing......... Kelly Troyer "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) "13B ROTARY"_ Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo _____ From: Pat Panzera To: Rotary motors in aircraft Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 7:37:54 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Numbers? Hey gang, I have a core engine I need to identify. Are there any numbers on the web I can look up? Thanks! Pat -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0345_01CBDB40.C834BB40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

20B MAZDA in = black outline paint; C927 on all three rotor = housings….

Marc

 

From:= = Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of Thomas Giddings
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 = 7:57 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: = [FlyRotary] Re: Numbers?

 

Here you go everyone: The engine = should be stamped on all the rotor housings and sideplates. Look on the = top of the rotor housings where is says "Mazda = 20B"


Pre A code: 3 digit  numbers only, no = letter
A code : Letter A and 3 digit #
B code : Letter B and 3 = digit #
All of the above are small dowel pin land motors

C = code: letter C and 3 digit #
D code : letter D and 3 digit = #

The C and D code have the upgraded sideplates, thicker dowel = pin lands. Approx: 4mm thicker

On Mar 3, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Kelly Troyer = wrote:



Thomas,<= /o:p>

  &= nbsp;  Share some of your new found info on the 20B with the = group............
 

Kelly = Troyer
"DYKE = DELTA JD2" = (Eventually)

"13B = ROTARY"_ = Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/O= il Manifold

"TURBONE= TICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

 

 

From:= = Thomas Giddings <tom@midwestaviation.net>To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 5:23:15 PM
Subject: = [FlyRotary] Re: Numbers?

Thanks Kelley....Your = right...Brian knows his stuff...I have a very early 20B =

Tom



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&nb= sp;

Kelly = Troyer
"DYKE = DELTA JD2" = (Eventually)

"13B = ROTARY"_ = Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/O= il Manifold

"TURBONE= TICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

 

 

From:=  Thomas = Giddings <tom@midwestaviation.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 9:02:41 = AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Numbers?

On a = similar topic...does anyone know how to identify which year 20B I have? = I was told ,but have no real way of knowing = .

On Mar 3, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Kelly = Troyer wrote:



=

Pat,

  &= nbsp;  If your core engine still has the waterpump on it count the = number of bolts

on the = pump........86-88 13B has 7 WP bolts...........89-91 has 8 WP = bolts.....

 

  &= nbsp; 93-95 13B has an all aluminum WP.......This is quick and = dirty but there are

other ways = if WP is missing...........The 86-91 WP is cast iron bolted to = alum

housing......= ...

 

Kelly = Troyer
"DYKE = DELTA JD2" = (Eventually)

"13B = ROTARY"_ = Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/O= il Manifold

"TURBONE= TICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

 

 

From:=  Pat Panzera = <editor.contactmagazine@gmail.com>
To:<= span class=3Dapple-converted-space> Rotary motors in = aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 7:37:54 = PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] = Numbers?

Hey = gang,

I have a core engine I need to identify.
Are there any = numbers on the web I can look = up?

Thanks!

Pat

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