X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-ew0-f52.google.com ([209.85.215.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.10) with ESMTP id 4571667 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 08 Nov 2010 21:23:50 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.215.52; envelope-from=dmlobner@gmail.com Received: by ewy1 with SMTP id 1so3466732ewy.25 for ; Mon, 08 Nov 2010 18:23:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=e5GoYtkkx3owlhZPFpkKPuAx7vYS1Y84RFaDLuXa3QU=; b=RZnSKQqmMjYhtweu7RnSuaOyjQpnxbRU0C31xDouZgAXCJ7FTmE+/KzoYHUM6JauVb 4gNqDtd53ehbfA0ekwSt8VAGsFqpkfe6XQecD9lx6anqu23Bm7JYEPLIpKLF20VjEaUu 3o5y0aAvgdSzPqd6njw111dnw0u8TpbQxWfpU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=AYVwQRyfZQ6al7DlFk9YXblp0lhO2RkrvpCkwjNB465OJoDcRVoIqfPkAdqpMu8D11 qT0sTNJWkQ2BcP0bl01mJwJ1ht+WYT9D5EPTPepKuF8TlNR7KqhQufmt2TYFp/pY/4CE 7By8JuAsV87B7/Lba9KxRLqremDfZoy6/1PmU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.9.140 with SMTP id l12mr5296805ebl.13.1289269395250; Mon, 08 Nov 2010 18:23:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.12.205 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 18:23:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 20:23:15 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Bear hawk dream airplane From: Dustin Lobner To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=0015174c3fa852e1e90494956c2e --0015174c3fa852e1e90494956c2e Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c3fa852e1e30494956c2d --0015174c3fa852e1e30494956c2d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Everything I've read would agree with Eric. Reference: http://www.airbum.com/pireps/PirepBearhawk180.html http://www.airbum.com/pireps/PirepBearhawk260.html http://www.airbum.com/pireps/PirepPatFaganBH.html http://www.bearhawkaircraft.com/testimonials/index.php http://www.bearhawkaircraft.com/docs/spin-eval1.pdf Dustin On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Newton, Eric wrote: > Now that's biggest load of bull I've ever read. I built and fly a > Bearhawk and have taken off and landed in all sorts of wind conditions. BTW > - I am a low time pilot (about 350 hours) and even a lower time tail wheel > pilot (about 150 hours) and have never had a problem > with my Bearhawk. I have landed and taken off in gusty crosswinds of all > sorts up to 20 knots and never a problem. Mine is built exactly to the > plans with no modifications. It is very forgiving of the stupid stuff I've > done to it and I've always had plenty rudder authority and brakes to correct > my sometimes less than perfect landings. > > Why is it that every time some jughead wraps his airplane up in a ball or > flips it over, he wants to immediately blame it on the airplane? I am so > sick of people not being able to admit they just plan ole *screwed up*. > > The Bearhawk is a good solid, honest airplane that does whatever is asked > of it. Just the fact that your "hangar landlord" was using "a lot of fast > stick and rudder work" tells me a lot about what his problem might be. Get > it lined up on final, at the proper speed, proper attitude (the airplane and > pilot) and then hold it there making very small corrections as needed to > keep it straight and lined up with the runway. If you are jerking the > controls around like an idiot, the airplane is going to do exactly what you > are telling it to do. > > Bummer that people have to bad mouth a good airplane. What a bunch of > malarkey. > > Eric Newton - Long Beach, MS > Bearhawk N57EN - "Miss'ippi Mudbug" > http://mybearhawk.com > > > > > > From: Don Walker Subject: Bear hawk dream airplane > Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 10:43:03 -0800 To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net [image: > Message Header] > > [image: Undecoded Message] > Dustin, > My hanger landlord, a 20,000 hour ATP finished building a Bearhawk with an > 0-540 in it. He's a serial builder and it's a 10.5 out of 10. According to > him, the design has several serious flaws. He put it on it's back in a > moderate crosswind. Cost him 30 grand. After checking out the problem he > found: The landing gear from the factory are not straight. He modified and > straightened them. It needs Much more engine offset. The tail is much too > small. Factory support leaves much to be desired and design deficiency > problems are left to be worked out by the builders. The company may be in > financial trouble. I have flown it in once with him since all the rework. > Nice solid airplane and not as heavy on the controls as many. I watched > his landing on a no wind day and he worked very hard with a lot of fast > stick and rudder work. He still won't fly it with moderate cross winds. > There is a Bearhawk builders group on Yahoo. Suggest you spend a lot of > time reading over the postings. Just a heads up. > > Don Walker > RV-8 Renesis > Flying and modifying > > Subscribe: Feed, > Digest , > Index . > Unsubscribe > Mail to ListMaster > --0015174c3fa852e1e30494956c2d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Everything I've read would agree with Eric.=A0 Reference:

http://www.airbum.= com/pireps/PirepBearhawk180.html
http://www.airbum.com/pireps/PirepBearhawk260.h= tml
http://www.ai= rbum.com/pireps/PirepPatFaganBH.html
http://www.bearhawkaircraft.com/testimo= nials/index.php
http://www.= bearhawkaircraft.com/docs/spin-eval1.pdf

Dustin


On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Newton, Eric <enewton@beaurivage.= com> wrote:

Now that's biggest=20 load of bull I've ever read.=A0 I built and fly a Bearhawk = and=20 have taken off and landed in all sorts of wind conditions.=A0 B= TW=20 - I am a low time pilot (about 350 hours) and even a lower time= tail=20 wheel pilot (about 150 hours) and have never had a problem
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wi= th my=20 Bearhawk.=A0I have landed and taken off in gusty crosswinds of= =20 all sorts up to 20 knots and never a problem.=A0 Mine is built= =20 exactly to the plans with no modifications.=A0 It is very=20 forgiving of the stupid stuff I've done to it and I've = always had=20 plenty rudder authority and brakes to correct my sometimes less= than=20 perfect landings.
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Why is it that=20 every time some jughead wraps his airplane up in a ball or flip= s it=20 over, he wants to immediately blame it on the airplane?=A0 I am= =20 so sick of people not being able to admit they just plan ole=20 screwed up.=A0
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The Bearhawk is a=20 good solid, honest airplane that does whatever is asked of it.= =A0=20 Just the fact that your "hangar landlord"=A0was using= "a lot of=20 fast stick and rudder work" tells me a lot about what his = problem=20 might be.=A0 Get it lined up on final, at the proper speed,=20 proper attitude (the airplane and pilot) and then hold it there= =20 making very small corrections as needed to keep it straight and= =20 lined up with the runway.=A0 If you are=A0jerking the controls= =20 around like an idiot, the airplane is going to do exactly what = you=20 are telling it to do.
=A0
Bummer that people=20 have to bad mouth a good=A0airplane.=A0 What a bunch of=20 malarkey.
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Eric Newton - Long=20 Beach, MS
Bearhawk N57EN -=20 "Miss'ippi Mudbug"
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From: Don Walker=20 <dr= walker@gbis.com>
Subject: Bear hawk dream airplane
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 10:43:03 -0800
To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net
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Dustin,
My hanger landlord, a 20,000 hour ATP=20 finished building a Bearhawk with an 0-540 in it. =A0He's a seria= l=20 builder and it's a 10.5 out of 10. =A0According to him, the desig= n has=20 several serious flaws. =A0He put it on it's back in a moderate=20 crosswind. =A0Cost him 30 grand. =A0After checking out the problem=20 he found: =A0The landing gear from the factory are not straight.=20 =A0He modified and straightened them. =A0It needs Much more engine=20 offset. =A0The tail is much too small. =A0Factory support leaves=20 much to be desired and design deficiency problems are left to be work= ed=20 out by the builders. =A0The company may be in financial trouble.=20 =A0I have flown it in once with him since all the rework. =A0Nice=20 solid airplane and not as heavy on the controls as many. =A0I watched= =20 his landing on a no wind day and he worked very hard with a lot of fa= st=20 stick and rudder work. =A0He still won't fly it with moderate cro= ss=20 winds. =A0There is a Bearhawk builders group on Yahoo. =A0Suggest=20 you spend a lot of time reading over the postings. =A0Just a heads=20 up.

Don Walker
RV-8 Renesis
Flying and=20 modifying

Subscribe: Feed,=20 Digest,=20 Index.
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