Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #51786
From: Steve Thomas <glasair2@me.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Noise Measurements
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:08:25 -0700
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Yes, it is easily repacked - specifically designed to do so.  I'll keep you-all posted on the longevity issue.

Best Regards,

Steve Thomas
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On Jul 29, 2010, at 4:52 PM, Bobby J. Hughes wrote:

Steve,
 
That "sounds" great. I hope the packing holds up. Can it be repacked easily? The Austin bunch is going through Hushpower II resonators pretty fast. I'm on my second one and it's starting to sound different. I think Dennis H is down to just a can without any internals. But his RV7 is still very quiet. I don't have any issues when keying the mic with my Lightspeed.  I only have one flight with my new Zulu and it works great. Better than my 20XL that's gone missing.
 
Bobby Hughes
RV10 Super Renesis
 


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Steve Thomas
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 4:31 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Noise Measurements

Well, I just made a guess and measured it at 100 ft.  I'll measure cockpit noise later, when I've got some flight time in.  Here is my story:

I have a Glasair Super II RG with a Mistral 2 rotor engine.  I've had it in the air once, and landed immediately as there was an oil temp problem that turned out to be a measurement problem.  However, what I did find that was particularly annoying was the noise.  My LightSpeed Zulu handled the noise fine until I keyed the mic.  Man, what a blast of noise!  I could barely hear the tower.  

The muffler that I was using was a 2 1/2 inlet/outlet and 3 1/2" diameter Burns Stainless device that I purchased many moons ago.  It was made up with stainless scrubble innards.  So, I decided to replace it with another Burns Stainless muffler, but a 2 1/2" inlet/outlet, 6 1/4" diameter, dual stage muffler.   See:  


Although this one has a 3" inlet/outlet, they made one for me with the 2 1/2".  What a difference!!!!  Here are the measurements I took from 100 feet, off the wing tip and about 30º aft.  They also put in a stainless cloth material instead of the stainless scrubble.  They claim that it works great for the rotary.   

idle:  57-60 DB
1500 RPM:  78 DB
2000 RPM:  87DB

By RPM, I mean prop at 2.85-1 reduction ratio.  I was fearful that going any higher would put my prop too close to the ground as the nose gear compressed down  with power.  I suppose you math-types can extrapolate different distances.  

I'll be hitting the air tomorrow.  While I had one short flight already, this will be much longer, hopefully and I can see what the plane will do.

The only real disadvantage of the muffler is that it hangs underneath the belly and looks ugly.  But it, so far, works terrific.  I hope the drag penalty is not too great.  

BTW, the rest of my exhaust consists of 2" headers into a collector with a 2 1/2" outlet made with .065 321 SS.  

Best Regards,

Steve Thomas
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On Jul 29, 2010, at 12:52 PM, wrjjrs@aol.com wrote:

Steve,
 
Typically the measurement for cars and motorcycles is at 50 feet away at 90 degrees to the directin of the exhaust flow. Any in-cabin measurements wouldn't need orientation, just put the pick up about where your head is.
 
Bill Jepson



-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Thomas <glasair2@me.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thu, Jul 29, 2010 9:31 am
Subject: [FlyRotary] Noise Measurements

I want to take some noise measurements today with a new muffler I just 
installed.  What is a reasonable distance from the aircraft to be taking these 
measurements?  Right next to the airplane seems to be somewhat unreasonable, and 
distance makes a big difference.  

Best Regards,

Steve Thomas
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