X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from securemail.ever-tek.com ([64.129.170.194] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.8) with ESMTP id 4367346 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:42:39 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.129.170.194; envelope-from=cbarber@texasattorney.net Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D302BF8CC68FCDMAIL06FCDATA_" Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 02:42:08 +0000 From: Chris Barber In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D302BF8CC68@FCD-MAIL06.FCDATA.PRIVATE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from fcd-mail06.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([2002:404:40b::404:40b]) byFCD-MAIL06.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([2002:404:40b::404:40b]) with mapi; Tue, 22 Jun2010 21:42:08 -0500 References: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] TurboCharger as a muffler Thread-Index: AQHLEnidIKKiSei1jUuMTq+IAWqPyJKOzT8x Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] TurboCharger as a muffler To: Rotary motors in aircraft X-Modus-SURBL: =OK X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: --_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D302BF8CC68FCDMAIL06FCDATA_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As I have mentioned recently my new turbo quiets my 13b significantly. My = Honda Shadow Saber motorcycle is now louder. I could actually use my cell p= hone while in the plane. In fairness, I did tell the caller, my mom, to ho= ld on a sec while I walked back into the hangar....but it IS quieter and I = do get the kewl sounds of the turbo/BOV.....zoom zoom zoom....bbswooooosh I wish I could help with a good single source for or turbo info. The guys = at www.turbochargers.com were helpful both o= n the phone and in person. I was about to state what John just said about the compression, but he beat= me to it. I am using the standard low compression rotors though. I am running 3lb boost and the engine seems to be producing "scarey power".= ..but it could just be me. 3 lb boost, at 34 MP and just over 6300 rpm WOT= . RDb 2.17 Redrive. Chris Barber Houston, GSOT ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of = Rob [rob@mum.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:05 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] TurboCharger as a muffler Hi everyone, I am preparing my Bruce Turrentine 20B hybrid engine for my BD-4. As I am t= hinking about all the details it occured to me that a turbo would be a grea= t muffler based on the experience of those on this list who have them. It t= urns out that the price of a good turbo has come down to the point that it = is almost as cheap as it would be to fabricate a good inconell exaust syste= m. Then I can use it for boosting the engine too. Is it reasonable to think like this? What do you all think of this proposal= ? The only problem is that my 20B has the high compression 9.7:1 rotors and I= 'm concerned about detenation. Is it possible with the right components to = maintain sealevel pressure on take off at full throttle and then maintain 3= 0" MP as I get higher? I have yet to figure out what components I need to do all this. I have been= reading as much as I can about turbocharging but I can't seem to get good = answers to the above questions. Does anyone know a good place to go to lea= rn more about turbocharging for aircraft or how to select components for a = specific mission? I would appreciate any comments or criticism on my musings. Brief or extens= ive coments are welcome. Thanks everyone. Robert Bollinger Currently flying a BD-4 with a Ford V6 --_000_2D41F9BF3B5F9842B164AF93214F3D302BF8CC68FCDMAIL06FCDATA_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As I have mentioned recently my new turbo quiets my 13b= significantly.  My Honda Shadow Saber motorcycle is n= ow louder. I could actually use my cell phone while in the plan= e.  In fairness, I did tell the caller, my mom, to hold on a sec while I walked back into the hangar....but it IS quieter and I do= get the kewl sounds of the turbo/BOV.....= zoom zoom zoom....bbswooooosh
 
I wish I could help with a good single source for or turbo info. = The guys at www.turbocharge= rs.com were helpful both on the phone and in person.
 
I was about to state what John just said about the compression, b= ut he beat me to it.  I am using the standard low compression rotors t= hough.
 
I am running 3lb boost and the engine seems to be p= roducing "scarey power"...but it could just be me.&= nbsp; 3 lb boost, at 34 MP and just over 6300 rpm WOT. R= Db 2.17 Redrive.
 
Chris Barber
Houston, GSOT
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary= @lancaironline.net] on behalf of Rob [rob@mum.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:05 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] TurboCharger as a muffler

Hi everyone,
I am preparing my Bruce Turrentine 20B=  hybrid engine for my BD-4. As I am thinking about all the detail= s it occured to me that a turbo would be a great muffler based on the = experience of those on this list who have them. It turns out that the price of a good turbo has come down to the point that i= t is almost as cheap as it would be to fabricate a good inconell exaust sys= tem. Then I can use it for boosting the engine too.
Is it reasonable to think like this? W= hat do you all think of this proposal?
 
 
The only problem is that my 20B has th= e high compression 9.7:1 rotors and I'm concerned about detenation. Is= it possible with the right components to maintain sealevel pressure o= n take off at full throttle and then maintain 30" MP as I get higher?
 
I have yet to figure out what componen= ts I need to do all this. I have been reading as much as I can about turboc= harging but I can't seem to get good answers to the above questions.  = Does anyone know a good place to go to learn more about turbocharging for aircraft or how to select components for a sp= ecific mission?
 
 
I would appreciate any comments or cri= ticism on my musings. Brief or extensive coments are welcome.
 
Thanks everyone.
 
Robert Bollinger
Currently flying a BD-4 with a Ford V6=
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