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I still remember my first ride down in a jump plane when the
clouds rolled in below us and we had to cancel the jump. You pretty much
described it. I use to joke with the occasional non-jumper passengers
onboard. I would tell them they may want to think about using the safety chute
they were wearing rather than riding back down in the plane. Less exciting.
Bobby
I've ~1000hrs of flying sky divers which is a similar style of
flying. [ except we had to take them 'all the way up' :)] Standard
proceedure was to fly pretty much max power [limited to 20-21" IIRC, in a 182 w/
a 470]. We'd be back to ~18" at 12000, once we dropped the divers it was red
line on the airspeed [unless it was bumpy due to daytime heating] and
keep the nose down. "Warping" was frowned upon [where the plane is
stuck in a turn and then you stick the G's on and look out your window to watch
the wings flex [or warp]] although you needed to pull some G's at some point as
you couldn't just go in a straight line forever.
It's a bit unsettling the first time you watch those wings flex..
We'd only pull until we couldn't see the outboard screw heads [holding the tips
on] and just try and hold that many g's while not getting into a
spiral [picking up speed]. All the time we are screaming down, we're maintaining
18" of MAP and every 1000ft we'd pull off another 1/2". By the time we got down
to tree top level you'd be almost at idle and if you planned it right you
wouldn't need to add any power before touch down, just bleed speed, yank
the flaps [manual flaps on those old 182's] on the base/final turn and grease
'er in on a grass strip [w/ a 150ft hill at one end and pine trees at the
other :)].
Someone had taken a pic at the drop zone of one of my 'last
ride' flights [last flight of the day as the sun was setting] where you can see
the tip lights, one over the other [vertically as the plane was pretty much in a
~90deg bank @ ~ 200ft] as I'm coming 'round to final, all in that evening 'sweet
light' w/ pine trees as far as you could see in the background... Loved
that picture..
It certainly wasn't "for the faint of heart" flying.
Never blew a jug on any of my dive planes on any of the seasons I
flew, so must have been doing something right. [However, I did have a jumper hit
the tail due to an early chute deployment.. but thats another
story]
Some [most?!] days I miss that crazy flying [compared to
the hrs of straight a level I have to do now :)]
J Johnson
> Ray, > > Sounds like your procedure works. One of the tow
pilots where I > used to soar would basically chop power and go into an
inverted > military break to the left after release and then some sort of
> Walter Mitty full flap super slip to landing. The last part looked
> about like a 100 ft rope break drill except worse! > > It
saves time and looks impressive as hell until the engine needs >
cylinders 1000 hrs before it should! Tow planes are one place > where
liquid cooling would have some huge advantages. I think > there was a
club over in Europe that put a liquid cooled auto > engine in a Pawnee.
In an ideal tow plane you could do what my > former tow pilot did with no
problems....It would also be nice if > they had dive brakes. It might be
more fun to fly the tow plane > than the gliders at that point...;-)
> > Ideal tow plane pattern. > > Establish release
end of downwind @ 3Kft or so > Chop Power > Roll inverted >
Pull back on stick > Deploy dive brakes > Dive for end of runway
> Pull out of dive > deploy flaps > Flare and touch down
dirty > bleed off speed and stop ready to hook up the next glider.
> clean up do over. > > I realize this would give the 5
mile final types a heart > attack...but it would be fun. Maybe make it a
two seater so you > could charge for rides ;-) > > Monty
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ray Cole
> To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Thursday, May
20, 2010 12:06 AM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: tehachapi [off
subject] > > > Hello Monty, > >
This discussion brought back thoughts I had when I was active in > our
local Soaring group. I thought a three rotor would work well > in the
nose of our Piper Pawnee for towing. Your are correct in > that the 0-540
engine does not make full TBO standards. The trick > is at release to
dump full flaps and slowly reduce power as the > engine cools while
diving for the runway. In a perfect launch, the > temps and the flare
occur at about the same. It is amazing that > for the most part we were
getting pretty good engine life. > > Good to see your post.
> > Ray >
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