X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-vw0-f52.google.com ([209.85.212.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.5) with ESMTP id 4235959 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:50:04 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.212.52; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by vws4 with SMTP id 4so1302274vws.25 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:49:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=3LE5YqnE9N3WbMHPlsjjTfTvMv2IN7lwAKBi99KZYQo=; b=REZVchAMAQoaj3dufGBqNiCUou/mRM3ubQ/3bWELZSXdsCLXgE+qw5021O96eDbDQ8 Mi3rt7pKcIWI1Et1N/mfZkYsj0TtC8ukzPLK7BqxRDmJ1Ln0kxq6it8OrWX5qFn2TIpH FG/xtjsmk6D5zmNIj4fNdEoil+6sGBxyUfJqM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=sgKSp8Gm1ASG7i91K4J1klUjQuOdJ9tpJBCH0heqer4IByaIfE+W887IHwOL8l7Fbc I5LvVeVcbiukW7Od26gdkEwNRUQAWy5CdHBKDSVvnEIL8j1FG5wLMWAH0TNsMHXGSDJZ ltXTXe1j2KSpvytHBuBELtd5jZsf2ObvzA8Dk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.124.101 with SMTP id t37mr4078412vcr.172.1272383366631; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.97.212 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:49:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:49:26 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8993475da7967a54 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area From: Tracy Crook To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636d34fc2961827048539d600 --001636d34fc2961827048539d600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *"Remember Bob's Mustang II is "Turbo Boosted" !!....."* Ahh, that would explain it. What was the manifold pressure at that RPM Bob= ? On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Kelly Troyer wrote: > Remember Bob's Mustang II is "Turbo Boosted" !!................. > -- > Kelly Troyer > "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 > "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold > > > > > > -------------- Original message from Tracy Crook : > -------------- > > 5000 is respectable with that prop. I got 5200 static but with a 68 - 7= 1 > prop & 2.176 drive. > > If yours is really a 68 - 88 prop, you can be proud of that 5000. > > Tracy Crook > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Rogers, Bob J. wrote= : > >> Static is about 5,000 engine rpm with a 2.17 redrive. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *= On >> Behalf Of *Bill Bradburry >> *Sent:* Monday, April 26, 2010 11:04 AM >> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area >> >> >> >> Bob, >> >> They claim that the prop loses 4=94 of pitch at take off. That would gi= ve >> you a 68 X 80 during static runup. What static rpm do you get when you = do >> the runup? Do you have the 2.17 or the 2.85 ratio drive? >> >> >> >> Bill B >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *= On >> Behalf Of *Rogers, Bob J. >> *Sent:* Monday, April 26, 2010 11:06 AM >> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area >> >> >> >> The prop is a Prince P-tip composite propeller. 68=94 diameter x 84=94 p= itch. >> See http://princeaircraft.com/ >> >> >> >> Bob R >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *= On >> Behalf Of *Bill Bradburry >> *Sent:* Friday, April 23, 2010 10:28 PM >> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area >> >> >> >> That really makes an aerodynamic installation! Needlenose! By the way, >> what kind of prop is that? >> >> >> >> Bill B >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *= On >> Behalf Of *Rogers, Bob J. >> *Sent:* Friday, April 23, 2010 3:16 PM >> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area >> >> >> >> Bill, >> >> >> >> There is baffling along the sides of the radiator and oil cooler that >> cause all air entering the nose bowl openings to pass through the radiat= or >> and oil cooler (instead of around them) before it exits the bottom, wher= e a >> large cowl flap regulates the amount of air flowing through the engine >> compartment. See the attached pictures. The oil cooler is at the top o= f >> the radiator. Initially, my oil got too hot at high power settings, so = I >> added a second Mazda 13B oil cooler (in series) and placed it right in f= ront >> of the radiator. It worked, and the oil temps are now about 10 degrees >> cooler than the water. I keep the water temp at about 180 degrees F mos= t of >> the time and never more than 200 degrees F. >> >> >> >> The plane flies beautifully and is currently being painted. Stay tuned >> for pictures of the finished project. >> >> >> >> >> >> Bob J. Rogers >> >> Mustang II >> >> N62BT >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *= On >> Behalf Of *Bill Bradburry >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:58 PM >> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area >> >> >> >> Bob, >> >> I noticed that you have the radiator mounted at an angle behind the >> engine. Tell me again how you are ducted to and from the rad? What abo= ut >> the oil cooler? Where is it and how is it ducted. What about any cooli= ng >> issues? How is your plane flying now that it has been a year? >> >> >> >> Bill B >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *= On >> Behalf Of *Rogers, Bob J. >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:16 PM >> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area >> >> >> >> I am the guy in McKinney. See >> http://www.eaa1246.org/projectsnplanesdisplay.asp?id=3D10 and >> http://www.eaa1246.org/videodisplay.asp?id=3D36 >> >> I am not an A&P. >> >> >> >> Bob Rogers >> >> Mustang II >> >> N62BT >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *= On >> Behalf Of *Bryan Winberry >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12:57 PM >> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area >> >> >> >> There=92s also a guy in McKinney. I can=92t remember his name, but you = could >> find it on the EAA website. >> >> Bryan >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *= On >> Behalf Of *Bill Eslick >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:54 PM >> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area >> >> >> >> Al, >> >> I am about 70 miles SW of DFW at Pecan Plantation (0TX1), and Jason >> Hutchison also has a rotary-powered RV-6A here. Feel free to visit >> anytime. Neither of us is an A&P. >> >> Bill Eslick >> >> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Al Gietzen wrote: >> >> Who do we have in Dallas area installing or flying rotary engine? Anyone >> with A&P Certification? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Al >> >> >> > > --001636d34fc2961827048539d600 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Remember Bob's Mustang II is "Turbo Boosted" !!.....= "

Ahh, that would explain it.=A0 What was the manifold pres= sure at that RPM Bob?


On Tue, Apr 27,= 2010 at 11:43 AM, Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net> wrote:
Remember Bob's Mustang II is "Turbo Boosted" !!.........= ........
--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
&q= uot;RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold <= br>


=A0
-------------- Original message from Tracy Crook &= lt;tracy@rota= ryaviation.com>: --------------

5000 is respectable with that prop.=A0=A0 I got 5200 static but with a = 68 - 71 prop & 2.176 drive.

If yours is really a 68 - 88 prop, y= ou can be proud of that 5000.

Tracy Crook

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Rogers, Bob J.= <BRogers@fdic.gov> wrote:

Static is abou= t 5,000 engine rpm with a 2.17 redrive.

= =A0

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Bill Bradburr= y
Sent: Monday, April 26, 20= 10 11:04 AM
To: Rotary = motors in aircraft
Subject:= [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

=A0

Bob,

They claim tha= t the prop loses 4=94 of pitch at take off.=A0 That would give you a 68 X 8= 0 during static runup.=A0 What static rpm do you get when you do the runup?= =A0 Do you have the 2.17 or the 2.85 ratio drive?

= =A0

Bill B<= /font>

= =A0

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Rogers, Bob J= .
Sent: Monday, April 26, 20= 10 11:06 AM
To: Rotary = motors in aircraft
Subject:= [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

=A0

The prop is a = Prince P-tip composite propeller. 68=94 diameter x 84=94 pitch.=A0 See http://princeaircraft.= com/

= =A0

Bob R

= =A0

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Bill Bradburr= y
Sent: Friday, April 23, 20= 10 10:28 PM
To: Rotary = motors in aircraft
Subject:= [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

=A0

That really ma= kes an aerodynamic installation!=A0 Needlenose!=A0 By the way, what kind of= prop is that?

= =A0

Bill B<= /font>

= =A0

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Rogers, Bob J= .
Sent: Friday, April 23, 20= 10 3:16 PM
To: Rotary m= otors in aircraft
Subject:<= /b> [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

=A0

Bill,

= =A0

There is baffl= ing along the sides of the radiator and oil cooler that cause all air enter= ing the nose bowl openings to pass through the radiator and oil cooler (ins= tead of around them) before it exits the bottom, where a large cowl flap re= gulates the amount of air flowing through the engine compartment.=A0 See th= e attached pictures.=A0 The oil cooler is at the top of the radiator.=A0 In= itially, my oil got too hot at high power settings, so I added a second Maz= da 13B oil cooler (in series) and placed it right in front of the radiator.= =A0 It worked, and the oil temps are now about 10 degrees cooler than the w= ater.=A0 I keep the water temp at about 180 degrees F most of the time and = never more than 200 degrees F.

= =A0

The plane flie= s beautifully and is currently being painted.=A0 Stay tuned for pictures of= the finished project.

= =A0

= =A0

Bob J. Rogers<= /span>

Mustang II

N62BT

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Bill Bradburr= y
Sent: Wednesday, April 21,= 2010 5:58 PM
To: Rotar= y motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area<= /p>

=A0

Bob,

I noticed that= you have the radiator mounted at an angle behind the engine.=A0 Tell me ag= ain how you are ducted to and from the rad?=A0 What about the oil cooler?= =A0 Where is it and how is it ducted.=A0 What about any cooling issues?=A0 = How is your plane flying now that it has been a year?

= =A0

Bill B<= /font>

= =A0

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Rogers, Bob J= .
Sent: Wednesday, April 21,= 2010 3:16 PM
To: Rotar= y motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area<= /p>

=A0

I am the guy i= n McKinney.=A0 See http://www.eaa1246.org/projectsnplanesdispl= ay.asp?id=3D10 and http://www.eaa1246.org/videodisplay.asp?id=3D36

I am not an A&= amp;P.

= =A0

Bob Rogers

Mustang II

N62BT

= =A0

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Bryan Winberr= y
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2= 010 12:57 PM
To: Rotary= motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

=A0

There=92s also= a guy in McKinney.=A0 I can=92t remember his name, but you could find it o= n the EAA website.

Bryan

= =A0

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Bill Eslick Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2= 010 1:54 PM
To: Rotary = motors in aircraft
Subject:= [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

=A0

Al,

I am about= 70 miles SW of DFW at Pecan Plantation (0TX1), and Jason Hutchison also ha= s a rotary-powered RV-6A here.=A0 Feel free to visit anytime.=A0 Neither of= us is an A&P.

Bill Eslick

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net= > wrote:

Who do we have in Dallas area installi= ng or flying rotary engine? Anyone with A&P Certification?

=A0

Thanks,

=A0

= Al

=A0

=

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