X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.5) with ESMTP id 4235947 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:43:39 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.115.11.52; envelope-from=keltro@att.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; q=dns/txt; d=att.net; s=dkim01; i=keltro@att.net; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1272383017; h=Content-Type: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:Subject:To:From; bh=cz3BKB ruu9H7W5XTZg3q9hEcHxeaE/j9y2SPr3pX4k4=; b=b0vw+tTaZ/T8uZd36ZQSlu4Cv IzOpsIXP0IA51j0mJLQstDA0n4Bzbj0nr82rIUTB9XGDcg5I2lVyVOWbYir4Q== Received: from fwebmail03.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.153]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20100427154301H0200f6715e>; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:43:02 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [207.115.11.153] Received: from [208.114.42.60] by fwebmail03.isp.att.net; Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:43:00 +0000 From: "Kelly Troyer" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:43:00 +0000 Message-Id: <042720101543.3949.4BD70603000A84A800000F6D22230647629B0A02D29B9B0EBF019D9B040A05@att.net> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: a2VsdHJvQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_3949_1272382980_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_3949_1272382980_0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Remember Bob's Mustang II is "Turbo Boosted" !!................. -- Kelly Troyer=20 "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=20 "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=20 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=20 -------------- Original message from Tracy Crook = : --------------=20 5000 is respectable with that prop. I got 5200 static but with a 68 - 71 = prop & 2.176 drive. If yours is really a 68 - 88 prop, you can be proud of that 5000. Tracy Crook On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Rogers, Bob J. wrote: Static is about 5,000 engine rpm with a 2.17 redrive. From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Beh= alf Of Bill Bradburry Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 11:04 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area Bob, They claim that the prop loses 4=E2=80=9D of pitch at take off. That would= give you a 68 X 80 during static runup. What static rpm do you get when y= ou do the runup? Do you have the 2.17 or the 2.85 ratio drive? Bill B From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Beh= alf Of Rogers, Bob J. Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 11:06 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area The prop is a Prince P-tip composite propeller. 68=E2=80=9D diameter x 84= =E2=80=9D pitch. See http://princeaircraft.com/ Bob R From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Beh= alf Of Bill Bradburry Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 10:28 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area That really makes an aerodynamic installation! Needlenose! By the way, wh= at kind of prop is that? Bill B From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Beh= alf Of Rogers, Bob J. Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 3:16 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area Bill, There is baffling along the sides of the radiator and oil cooler that cause= all air entering the nose bowl openings to pass through the radiator and o= il cooler (instead of around them) before it exits the bottom, where a larg= e cowl flap regulates the amount of air flowing through the engine compartm= ent. See the attached pictures. The oil cooler is at the top of the radia= tor. Initially, my oil got too hot at high power settings, so I added a se= cond Mazda 13B oil cooler (in series) and placed it right in front of the r= adiator. It worked, and the oil temps are now about 10 degrees cooler than= the water. I keep the water temp at about 180 degrees F most of the time = and never more than 200 degrees F. The plane flies beautifully and is currently being painted. Stay tuned for= pictures of the finished project. Bob J. Rogers Mustang II N62BT From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Beh= alf Of Bill Bradburry Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:58 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area Bob, I noticed that you have the radiator mounted at an angle behind the engine.= Tell me again how you are ducted to and from the rad? What about the oil= cooler? Where is it and how is it ducted. What about any cooling issues?= How is your plane flying now that it has been a year? Bill B From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Beh= alf Of Rogers, Bob J. Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:16 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area I am the guy in McKinney. See http://www.eaa1246.org/projectsnplanesdispla= y.asp?id=3D10 and http://www.eaa1246.org/videodisplay.asp?id=3D36 I am not an A&P. Bob Rogers Mustang II N62BT From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Beh= alf Of Bryan Winberry Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12:57 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area There=E2=80=99s also a guy in McKinney. I can=E2=80=99t remember his name,= but you could find it on the EAA website. Bryan From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Beh= alf Of Bill Eslick Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:54 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area Al, I am about 70 miles SW of DFW at Pecan Plantation (0TX1), and Jason Hutchis= on also has a rotary-powered RV-6A here. Feel free to visit anytime. Neit= her of us is an A&P. Bill Eslick On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Al Gietzen wrote: Who do we have in Dallas area installing or flying rotary engine? Anyone wi= th A&P Certification? 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Remember Bob's Mustang II is "Turbo Boosted" !!.................
--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_1= 3B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifol= d



 
-------------- Original message from Tracy Crook <tracy@r= otaryaviation.com>: --------------

5000 is respectable with that= prop.   I got 5200 static but with a 68 - 71 prop & 2.176 dr= ive.

If yours is really a 68 - 88 prop, you can be proud of that 500= 0.

Tracy Crook

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Rogers, Bob J. <= SPAN dir=3Dltr><BRogers@fdic.gov= > wrote:

Static is about 5,000= engine rpm with a 2.17 redrive.

 <= /P>

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 11:04 AM=
To: Rotary motors in ai= rcraft
Subject: [FlyRota= ry] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

 

Bob,

They claim that the p= rop loses 4=E2=80=9D of pitch at take off.  That would give you a 68 X= 80 during static runup.  What static rpm do you get when you do the r= unup?  Do you have the 2.17 or the 2.85 ratio drive?

 <= /P>

Bill B<= /P>

 <= /P>

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Rogers, Bob J.
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 11:06 AM=
To: Rotary motors in ai= rcraft
Subject: [FlyRota= ry] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

 

The prop is a Prince = P-tip composite propeller. 68=E2=80=9D diameter x 84=E2=80=9D pitch.  = See http://princeair= craft.com/

 <= /P>

Bob R

 <= /P>

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 10:28 PM=
To: Rotary motors in ai= rcraft
Subject: [FlyRota= ry] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

 

That really makes an = aerodynamic installation!  Needlenose!  By the way, what kind of = prop is that?

 <= /P>

Bill B<= /P>

 <= /P>

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Rogers, Bob J.
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 3:16 PM<= BR>To: Rotary motors in air= craft
Subject: [FlyRotar= y] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

 

Bill,

 <= /P>

There is baffling alo= ng the sides of the radiator and oil cooler that cause all air entering the= nose bowl openings to pass through the radiator and oil cooler (instead of= around them) before it exits the bottom, where a large cowl flap regulates= the amount of air flowing through the engine compartment.  See the at= tached pictures.  The oil cooler is at the top of the radiator.  = Initially, my oil got too hot at high power settings, so I added a second M= azda 13B oil cooler (in series) and placed it right in front of the radiato= r.  It worked, and the oil temps are now about 10 degrees cooler than = the water.  I keep the water temp at about 180 degrees F most of the t= ime and never more than 200 degrees F.

 <= /P>

The plane flies beaut= ifully and is currently being painted.  Stay tuned for pictures of the= finished project.

 <= /P>

 <= /P>

Bob J. Rogers<= /FONT>

Mustang II

N62BT

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:58 = PM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRo= tary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

 

Bob,

I noticed that you ha= ve the radiator mounted at an angle behind the engine.  Tell me again = how you are ducted to and from the rad?  What about the oil cooler?&nb= sp; Where is it and how is it ducted.  What about any cooling issues?&= nbsp; How is your plane flying now that it has been a year?

 <= /P>

Bill B<= /P>

 <= /P>

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Rogers, Bob J.
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:16 = PM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRo= tary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

 

I am the guy in McKin= ney.  See http://www.eaa1246.org/projectsnplanesdisplay.asp= ?id=3D10 and http://www.eaa1246.org/videodisplay.asp?id=3D36

I am not an A&P.<= /SPAN>

 <= /P>

Bob Rogers

Mustang II

N62BT

 <= /P>

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bryan Winberry
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12:57 P= M
To: Rotary motors in a= ircraft
Subject: [FlyRot= ary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

 

There=E2=80=99s also = a guy in McKinney.  I can=E2=80=99t remember his name, but you could f= ind it on the EAA website.

Bryan

 <= /P>

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Eslick
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:54 PMTo: Rotary motors in aircr= aft
Subject: [FlyRotary]= Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

 

Al,

I am about 70 mi= les SW of DFW at Pecan Plantation (0TX1), and Jason Hutchison also has a ro= tary-powered RV-6A here.  Feel free to visit anytime.  Neither of= us is an A&P.

Bill Eslick

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net> w= rote:

Who do we have in Dallas area installing or f= lying rotary engine? Anyone with A&P Certification?

 

Thanks,

 

Al<= /SPAN>

 

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