Have not gone out and checked my rivets on
my R1C, will do that this weekend. However, there is one possibility for the
cause of the smoking rivets that I have not heard addressed and that is vibration
nodes of a rotating disc. There is the possibility that if the disc were in
some oscillatory mode that the smoking rivets might be caused by with the
rivets being at the nodes of certain modes (like that?) of vibration which
could be causing the holes in the discs to be sliding up and down the shaft of rivet.
In the end, it may be important to know
what is causing this. The 20Bs should be smoother than the 13Bs, on the other hand,
they do have a different firing frequency. For the same RPM the number of firing
pulses from the 20B are 1/3 higher than the 13B over the same time period. That
could possibly induce vibration nodes in the disc that the 13B (which has
longer duration between firings pulses). The long time between firings in the
13B might permit the mass/structure of the assembly to dampen the amplitude of
any such induced vibration between firings pulses – where not so for
the more frequent pulses of the 20B. The higher the frequency of the input,
the stiffer structure that can be caused to vibrate. A vast over
simplification, but thought I would throw it out just incase somebody had a
finite analysis package sitting on their computer. Just a WAG.
Here is an URL that provides a drawing of
how such nodes might form on a disc
http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/NormalOscillatoryModesOfRotatingOrthotropicDisks/
From: Rotary motors in aircraft
[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010
2:25 PM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Adaptor
plate rivets
Al,
I had a bunch of AN-6A bolts, so I used them with two thick washers,
one under the head and one under the nut. I mainly wanted to ensure that
the shank went all the way through both pieces. You might be able to use
AN-5.5A or even AN-5A bolts if you use only one thin washer under the nut.
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net> wrote:
To answer your question about the washers, I used thick washers on both
sides. But I'll have to remove them all in order to replace the AN-6A
bolts with AN173-6A's. I'm hoping the bolts arrive by this weekend so I
can start putting everything back together.
Normally washers are needed only under the side that you’re
turning to apply the force; unless needed to provide shimming or a more uniform
or larger surface. The -6A length has a 3/8” grip length, and I
assumed the plate was 1/8” and the flange ¼”. If the
thickness is less I may have to get some more, or thicker, washers.
Al