X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao107.cox.net ([68.230.241.39] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.4) with ESMTP id 4178007 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:17:39 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.39; envelope-from=rv-4mike@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20100325051705.WENW20722.fed1rmmtao107.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:17:05 -0400 Received: from willsPC ([68.105.86.80]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id xHH41d00A1k005Q03HH4UA; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:17:04 -0400 X-VR-Score: 0.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=9X1BeRvGVdXikaVgI7mHUqmIOlosh/BCISq12UegNM8= c=1 sm=1 a=XruvlouZCDbGUgEaRUiNZQ==:17 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=MMJqXZW_hA7JU_XVU2MA:9 a=LoFxjpO0boAXL8ufi2u5s2ACVUkA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=lISSxMUauyY0gAgq:21 a=_londVFrqpKU00kX:21 a=pedpZTtsAAAA:8 a=f2w4UqVYHRbZbecGeQAA:9 a=RcjsMn_SUTfNr5c4PicA:7 a=gPa5vwKMo6pr5U_Tw-4yUWkpTGsA:4 a=eJojReuL3h0A:10 a=QZ51WUOynJ_POga7:21 a=1pdb_U9CNMI2Szd5:21 a=XruvlouZCDbGUgEaRUiNZQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <2836C967745149ACA0DDFEBB63C238C6@willsPC> From: "Mike Wills" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Turbo Planning Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 22:17:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01CACB9F.BB8E6370" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01CACB9F.BB8E6370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill, I went back and looked at Don's previous post. Saw reference to climb = performance, RPMs, and temps, but no speed numbers. Has he previously = reported cruise speeds over 200? Last post from him that I saw with any = speed numbers reported 174MPH IAS at 8000. If he's over 200 now, wow = those are good numbers! Mike Wills From: Bill Bradburry=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:15 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Turbo Planning=20 Those are the best numbers I have seen with anyone with a Renesis so = far. In fact, I have not heard of numbers that good on any 13B. Don is = getting over 200 MPH with a cruise prop and climbing at over 1400 fpm = with it. The only way he is going to do better is either with an = electric CS prop and/or turbo. If he shaves the prop off to say, 74", = he will get a couple hundred more rpm, but will probably lose in total = thrust. Diameter is a big determiner in thrust.=20 =20 I would like more pictures of Dons intake and exhaust! =20 Bill B =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of Al Gietzen Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:05 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Turbo Planning=20 1. When I read your stats in your first paragraph, the first thought = that comes to mind is that there is too much prop. =20 =20 Ditto. =20 Al G ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01CACB9F.BB8E6370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bill,
 
I went back and looked at Don's previous post. = Saw=20 reference to climb performance, RPMs, and temps, but no speed numbers. = Has he=20 previously reported cruise speeds over 200? Last post from him that I = saw with=20 any speed numbers reported 174MPH IAS at 8000. If he's over 200 = now, wow=20 those are good numbers!
 
Mike Wills

Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:15 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Turbo Planning

Those are the best numbers I have seen with = anyone with=20 a Renesis so far.  In fact, I have not heard of numbers that good = on any=20 13B.  Don is getting over 200 MPH with a cruise prop and climbing = at over=20 1400 fpm with it.  The only way he is going to do better is either = with an=20 electric CS prop and/or turbo.  If he shaves the prop off to say, = 74=94, he=20 will get a couple hundred more rpm, but will probably lose in total=20 thrust.  Diameter is a big determiner in=20 thrust. 

 

I would like more pictures of Dons intake and=20 exhaust!

 

Bill B

 

From:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On=20 Behalf Of Al Gietzen
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 = 3:05=20 AM
To: = Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Turbo = Planning=20

1.=20 When I read your stats in your first paragraph, the first thought=20 that

comes to mind is that there is too much = prop. =20

 

Ditto.

 

Al=20 G

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