Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #50503
From: Tracy Crook <tracy@rotaryaviation.com>
Sender: <rwstracy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Turbo Planning
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:10:00 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
All sounds good Don but if it isn't easy to do I wouldn't worry about making the exhaust header equal length.  This is important on the 2nd & 3rd gen rotary but has very little effect on the Renesis due to the zero intake / exhaust overlap and the fact that the center exhaust port is shared by both rotors anyway..  You will have plenty of more important challenges to worry about.

You didn't mention intercooling but hope you are going to have that. 

Tracy

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Don Wallker <drwalker@gbis.com> wrote:
So here is where I am at so far. For those of you just tuning in, I am flying a Renesis powered RV-8, with all of Tracy's stuff and a Catto76/88 prop.  Flys great, and I'm getting  comfortable with it.  It's just not getting enough power.  About 6080 static and 1450 ft/mn climb at about 2200 rpm prop at 100 mph and that's at full throttle.  Max indicated at 8000ft, 54 degree day, 2440 on the prop and 205 oil and 200 degree water.  So I need more cooling and more power.  I'm going to attack both at once and get it all done.
I'm roughly basing these changes on what Dave Leonard has done.  He's been through all this and has a fast powerful and dependable turbo set up in a similar airplane. RV-6.  And it runs cool!  For more info and pictures, check out Dave's website n4vy.rotaryroster.net   Also a lot of ideas from John, Scott, Chris, Steve etc.

Radiator: C&R 3"x22x20, mounted under the oil pan.  A 1" inlet and outlet with short runs to the new water manifold that Ed is making. I'm hoping I wont' have to build up  the cowl, just cut into it, but I doubt it.  I will also have to increase the exit area and am not sure how to do that yet.

Oil cooler: Dave was using a Setrab, but they kept leaking.  Tracy is using a 30 row C&R cooler on his 3 rotor.PT# oc 238 30 an10,   They also make a 25 row that is about the same size as the setrab and should work and fit nicely behind the right cheek and provide a nice short oil line run.

Throttle body:  Probably a 75mm Mustang

Intercooler:  Dave is using a stock 91 Rx-7 one and I will probably use the same.  Hey, it fits!  There will almost certainly need to be some modifications to the inlet and outlet.  I have a Tig and a neighbor who is a great welder. We just tack things there, as I don't have enough power in the hanger for continuous welding.

Intake: I'm going to try and keep it totally on the left side of the engine and will use the existing Rx-8 lower aluminum intake manifold.  I'll cut it down, grind it level and have a plate welded on top, with 4 holes going to the intake tubes and short velocity stacks welded on.  On top and around will be the intake manifold itself.  Just an aluminum box with a throttle body attached.  I'm not sure just where yet.  It depends on how much room there is.  Combustion air will flow into the cowl, possibly from down by the radiator, or from a naca scoop on the side,  to the turbo compressor, through it to the inner cooler and through it and back to the throttle body.  Not sure where the injectors will go, but I'll try to use the existing injector holes.   May have to use the Simple Digital injector mounts.  Note, fire sleeve all fuel lines.  It solved half my vapor lock problems.

Turbo: will be mounted on the left side of the engine and a little back from directly out from the exhaust.  May be 3 to 4 inches.  This should give me room for the inner cooler and intake manifold.  But I may not have room for the fuel pumps and filters and they may have to go back inside the cabin, by my feet.  Not a bad idea.  I'll use 321 ss and make an equal length exhaust manifold with a waste gate port that will run to the output side of the turbine.  The exhaust out of the turbine will bend down and out the back cowl exit to a muffler.  I'm going to try the new Burns all SS muffler that some of the rotary racers are using.  They use stainless steel scruble for the packing.  Can't burn that out! and it's 3 lbs and my existing Hushpower is 9.    There will be a oil line going to the turbo with a normally open solenoid on it and an exit line out.  It will be 5/8ths and run down and around the engine to the other side where it will go through the side of the engine, like I have the RD-c return line.  I don't want to have to pull the engine out of the mount, but that is the only way.  If someone knows a better  place to run it back into, let me know.  The turbo will be supported by more than the exhaust.  When the exhaust is finished, it will be sent for Jet Hot coating.  There will be a SS shroud around the turbo and  the same for the exhaust.  I still don't know if I should use a wet or dry turbo housing, but more on that in the next post.
  Your thoughts, comments and questions are encouraged.

Don Walker
N113BR, 28 hours



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