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Thanks Mark and Tracy for the info. I'll check out
the foam.
Charlie,
My 6A had minimal interior upholstery, my -4
has none except seat cushions. The 6A was a little drafty and a little noisy,
but not all that bad. The -4 canopy isnt leak free by any means, but seals way
better than the 6A. In the 6A my old Lightspeed 20K ANR headset worked fine but
in the -4 with the radio volume cranked all the way up I have trouble making out
radio calls. The -4 is WAYYYY louder than the 6A was. The Lightspeed Zulu I
borrowed a couple of weeks ago was better, but I could still use
more.
My muffler fairs into the cowl pretty well.
I'd guess that it would be pretty tough to come up with a better aerodynamic
solution for the muffler than what I have now. Extending the tailpipe is
something I'm considering. Maybe not the best choice for aesthetics, but if it
helps its probably worth it.
Mike Wills
RV-4 N144MW
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Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 5:59
PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: cockpit
soundproofing
> Agreed. The extension idea was to just extend the pipes so the ends
are > behind the cockpit. I think that Tracy actually had something like
that > for a while & mentioned that it made the cockpit
quieter. > > I have no proof, but I suspect that turning the pipes
down can, in some > situations, actually add noise & heat to the
floorboards due to the > induced turbulence whipping the exhaust back
against the floor & also > causing drumming on the floor. My Lyc
powered RV-4 has downturned pipes, > & the floor is so hot I'm pretty
sure I could cook pancakes on it. > > Mike, Since you've flown RV's
for a while, you may already be aware of > this; a lot of the higher
frequency noise can be minimized in the > cockpit by just sealing up all
the air leaks into the cockpit. The 1st > -4 that I owned was painful,
even with a Lyc. Sealing up the air leaks > around the canopy made it
easily tolerable, even with passive headsets. > > FWIW, >
> Charlie > > Mark Steitle wrote: >>
Charlie, >> >> You're correct, turning the pipe down
does add drag, but so does >> hanging a big square suitcase shaped box
under the fuse. It just >> depends on how badly you want to
quiet things down. >> >> Mark >>
>> >> >> >> On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at
3:03 PM, Charlie England >> <ceengland@bellsouth.net <mailto:ceengland@bellsouth.net>>
wrote: >> >> Mark Steitle
wrote: >> >>
Mike, >> My first
line of defense against the noise is an ANR
headset. >>
That's a
given. >> I
purchased some black foam from ACS that I installed on
the >> interior walls
and floor. From what I've read a lot of
the >> noise comes in
through the firewall and windows. Not much
you >> can do about the
windows, but it seems that a generous
amount >> of
soundproofing on the firewall will help the most.
Lastly, >> you can turn
the exhaust down so that it is directed away
from >> the
occupants? Or, run it back behind the pax, and fly
faster >> than the
speed of sound so it can't catch up to you. Mark
S. >> >> On
Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Mike Wills <rv-4mike@cox.net >> <mailto:rv-4mike@cox.net>
<mailto:rv-4mike@cox.net >> <mailto:rv-4mike@cox.net>>>
wrote: >> >>
I asked a few days ago and got no replies. Since things
are >> a
bit >>
slow on the list now I'll try again. Anyone have
any >>
recommendations for a decent soundproofing material that
I >> can
add >>
to my firewall and floorboards to tame this racket?
Maybe >> the
rest >>
of the world will have to deal with the noise, but at
least >> I
can >>
try to make it a little more pleasant for
me. >>
Mike
Wills >>
RV-4 N144MW >> >> >> Running
it back past the occupants can actually be
effective. >> Turning it down adds
drag. >> >> I've often wondered why no
one has tried carrying the pipes down >>
several inches below the fuselage before turning them aft,
and >> installing streamline inserts aft of the
downpipes & between the >> fuselage bottom
& the horizontal run of pipe, to get smooth
air >> between the fuselage & the
now-parallel exhaust stream. >> >>
Charlie >> >>
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