X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from securemail.ever-tek.com ([64.129.170.194] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.15) with ESMTP id 3781690 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:26:02 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.129.170.194; envelope-from=cbarber@bellairepolice.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:25:34 -0500 From: "Chris Barber" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Just livid..... To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" , "Rotary motors in aircraft" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: Just livid..... Thread-Index: AcoOI+e6M7K5rLxuQsGaGk9u/gnIKQACTJDw References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA0E2F.3AF6D66C" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA0E2F.3AF6D66C Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Perhaps the cause of many problems, however, the broken wire was NOT brok= en two weeks ago when I rewired the ECU and got it running so well. I ju= st happened to notice it right off yesterday (gee, what are the odds of m= e finding something on the first thing I happened to check. Guessin' tha= t will be the last time). =20 I had to walk away yesterday, take a breath and focused on some micro fil= l and sanding I needed to do. I at least FELT a bit productive in spite o= f the demoralizing impact. I hate the idea of sending the unit back to T= racy again. He may have had it more than I have. =20 I will play with the sanding stuff tonight and get back to the engine dir= ectly. I will be checking the MAP table first, but the NOP is what reall= y concerns/bothers me. I am guessing the bad ground could have been the = cause, however, the NOP did NOT go away after I found the bad ground. I = fear it may have trashed my serial circuit again. Donno, just speculatio= n at this point. Trying to keep a stiff upper lip =20 All the best, =20 Chris Houston =20 Cpl. Christopher Barber, JD Badge 330 Bellaire Police Department 5110 Jessamine Bellaire, Texas 77401 =20 713-668-0487 713-662-8289 fax =20 CBarber@BellairePolice.com ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft on behalf of Bill Bradburry Sent: Sun 7/26/2009 2:03 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Just livid..... Chris, I would be surprised if you didn't just solve a whole passel of problems with your EC-2. There is not telling what that cut ground connection was doing over the past. High resistance, intermittent, open..who knows. Fixing this should make your EC-2 much more solid. Bill B -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Christopher Barber Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:08 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Just livid..... Thanks guys. I wrote NOS...course, I meant NOP. Hmmm, Al, I considered a second ground but was concerned that it may caus= e a problem I would be unaware of. Another testament to my ignorance, but learning and better everyday. I shall see what I can do. I think I may have over crimped this particular connector. When I examin= ed it, it seemed more cut than crimped. Donno what caused that.=20 I use a ratchet crimper and have not had problems before, however, most o= f my previous crimps were 20 gage and not 16, so I will check the tool and = my process. There was no strain on this particular wire. It is the very short ground Tracy recommend, IIRC, to be shorter than 12 inches. I relocated my ECU = to accommodate this instruction. All the best, Chris Houston Bob White wrote: > I agree, also if the wire can vibrate, do something to restrain it > better. > > Bob W. > > On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:12:25 -0500 > Dave wrote: > > =20 >> Sounds like some strain relief is in order. >> >> Al Wick wrote: >> =20 >>> Oem solution for broken wire is brilliant. They use more than one >>> wire for both ground and power. Huge improvement in reliability. >>>=20 >>> -al wick >>> >>> >>> I looked at the wires to the ECU and all was secure, EXCEPT, I >>> notice my >>> main (16gage) ground wire broke at the connector at the ECU. >>> Repaired >>> the wire. >>> >>> =20 >>> >>> =20 >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> =20 > > > =20 -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/Lis= t.html Warning: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e= -mails attached to it, may contain confidential information that is legal= ly privileged. 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Perhaps the cause of many problems, howeve= r, the broken wire was NOT broken two weeks ago when I rewired the ECU an= d got it running so well.  I just happened to notice it right off ye= sterday (gee, what are the odds of me finding something on the first thin= g I happened to check.  Guessin' that will be the last time<g>= ).
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Chris,
I would be surpri= sed if you didn't just solve a whole passel of problems
with your EC-2= =2E  There is not telling what that cut ground connection was
doi= ng over the past.  High resistance, intermittent, open..who knows.Fixing this should make your EC-2 much more solid.
Bill B

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From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]= On
Behalf Of Christopher Barber
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:08 P= M
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Just livid= =2E....

Thanks guys. I wrote NOS...course, I meant NOP.

Hmm= m, Al, I considered a second ground but was concerned that it may cause a=
problem I would be unaware of.  Another testament to my ignoranc= e, but
learning and better everyday.  I shall see what I can do.<= BR>
I think I may have over crimped this particular connector.  W= hen I examined
it, it seemed more cut than crimped.  Donno what c= aused that. 
I use a ratchet crimper and have not had problems be= fore, however, most of
my previous crimps were 20 gage and not 16, so = I will check the tool and my
process.

There was no strain on th= is particular wire.  It is the very short ground
Tracy recommend,= IIRC, to be shorter than 12 inches.  I relocated my ECU to
accom= modate this instruction.

<sigh>

All the best,

= Chris
Houston

Bob White wrote:
> I agree, also if the wir= e can vibrate, do something to restrain it
> better.
>
>= ; Bob W.
>
> On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:12:25 -0500
> Dave = <david.staten@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  
>= > Sounds like some strain relief is in order.
>>
>> = Al Wick wrote:
>>    
>>> Oem so= lution for broken wire is brilliant. They use more than one
>>&g= t; wire for both ground and power. Huge improvement in reliability.
&g= t;>> 
>>> -al wick
>>>
>>>=
>>>     I looked at the wires to the ECU= and all was secure, EXCEPT, I
>>>     no= tice my
>>>     main (16gage) ground wire= broke at the connector at the ECU.
>>>   &nbs= p; Repaired
>>>     the wire.
>>= >
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