X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mxo5.broadbandsupport.net ([209.55.3.85] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3685682 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:38:36 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.55.3.85; envelope-from=davidm@remconinc.com Return-Path: Received: from [24.206.182.54] ([24.206.182.54:3915] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mxo5.broadbandsupport.net (ecelerity 2.1.1.23 r(18304)) with ESMTP id 3B/8A-31834-6EB193A4 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:37:59 -0400 Message-ID: <4A391B85.9060003@remconinc.com> Disposition-Notification-To: David Moyer Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:36:21 -0500 From: David Moyer Reply-To: davidm@remconinc.com Organization: Remcon Associates, LLC User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: MotionX-GPS as a flight instrument? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000009020009070304040409" X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090616-0, 06/16/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000009020009070304040409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Also check out Checklist Lite, also free. I use the GPS Motion X lite when out running/mountain biking, and have tried it in the car. Seems to be pretty accurate. I haven't tried it in the plane yet. My experience with the GPS in the iPhone isn't very accurate compared to my Garmin in the car. Altitude is off by a factor of at least 50 ft and as much as 150 ft at times when not tracking all satellites in iHUD. Ground position seems to be off by as much as 50 ft approximately. The iphone and any applications shouldn't be used for any critical operations. Now the new iPhone with the built in digital compass will make it a bit more accurate, but still not going to be my choice for a navigation/flight instrument. David Moyer Bob Tilley wrote: > Jeff, > > The new one is $99. Other programs to check out are AOPA airports, > iHud, Flightplan, oh and X-Plane. > > > Bob Tilley > Albany, Ga > > On Jun 17, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Jeff Whaley wrote: > >> GPS in a phone as a flight instrument … not off-topic at all. >> The software is $2.99 … how much is an iPhone? >> I don’t have a cell phone yet, but when flying increases I’ll need >> one … the iPhone may be a good choice. >> BTW, I’ve heard of other PDAs that people use as GPS devices. >> Jeff >> >> *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft >> [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *On Behalf Of *Mark Steitle >> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:58 AM >> *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft >> *Subject:* [FlyRotary] MotionX-GPS as a flight instrument? >> >> I know this is off topic and a bit geeky, but I was wondering if >> anyone with an iPhone has tried the MotionX-GPS application to track >> their flights? It was designed for tracking workouts, like for >> mountain biking and jogging. But I couldn't help but wonder how it >> would work as a poor man's GPS. The basic "LITE" app is free, >> full-featured app is only $2.99 (almost free). One user comments >> that it works better than his $500 GPS. Is this possible? >> >> I just downloaded it and plan to try it out this weekend. Maybe it >> won't even work at altitude, but since it gets its signals from GPS >> satellites, maybe it will surprise me. >> >> See http://gps.motionx.com/overview/ Check out the picture of the >> iphone mounted on the handlebars of the mountain bike, with the >> MotionX app running. Now picture your instrument panel with the same >> mount. Pretty cool, and very cost effective, assuming you already >> have an iPhone. >> >> Mark S. > > > --------------000009020009070304040409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Also check out Checklist Lite, also free. I use the GPS Motion X lite when out running/mountain biking, and have tried it in the car. Seems to be pretty accurate. I haven't tried it in the plane yet. My experience with the GPS in the iPhone isn't very accurate compared to my Garmin in the car. Altitude is off by a factor of at least 50 ft and as much as 150 ft at times when not tracking all satellites in iHUD. Ground position seems to be off by as much as 50 ft approximately. The iphone and any applications shouldn't be used for any critical operations. Now the new iPhone with the built in digital compass will make it a bit more accurate, but still not going to be my choice for a navigation/flight instrument.
David Moyer


Bob Tilley wrote:
Jeff,

The new one is $99.  Other programs to check out are AOPA airports, iHud, Flightplan, oh and X-Plane.  


Bob Tilley
Albany, Ga
On Jun 17, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Jeff Whaley wrote:

GPS in a phone as a flight instrument … not off-topic at all.
The software is $2.99 … how much is an iPhone?
I don’t have a cell phone yet, but when flying increases I’ll need one … the iPhone may be a good choice.
BTW, I’ve heard of other PDAs that people use as GPS devices.
Jeff
 
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:58 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] MotionX-GPS as a flight instrument?
 
I know this is off topic and a bit geeky, but I was wondering if anyone with an iPhone has tried the MotionX-GPS application to track their flights?  It was designed for tracking workouts, like for mountain biking and jogging.  But I couldn't help but wonder how it would work as a poor man's GPS.  The basic "LITE" app is free, full-featured app is only $2.99 (almost free).  One user comments that it works better than his $500 GPS.  Is this possible?
 
I just downloaded it and plan to try it out this weekend.  Maybe it won't even work at altitude, but since it gets its signals from GPS satellites, maybe it will surprise me. 
 
See http://gps.motionx.com/overview/  Check out the picture of the iphone mounted on the handlebars of the mountain bike, with the MotionX app running.  Now picture your instrument panel with the same mount.  Pretty cool, and very cost effective, assuming you already have an iPhone. 
 
Mark S.



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