X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net ([204.127.217.102] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTP id 3496470 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:56:39 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.217.102; envelope-from=ceengland@bellsouth.net Received: from [192.168.10.7] (adsl-227-7-137.jan.bellsouth.net[74.227.7.137]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc02) with ESMTP id <20090217025602H0200iefaqe>; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 02:56:03 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [74.227.7.137] Message-ID: <499A2745.6020805@bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:56:05 -0600 From: Charlie England User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081204 SeaMonkey/1.1.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Second flight References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think that it's the weight. You'll find that the -4 gets even lighter when it gets heavier (cg goes aft). I don't know why, but I've flown several -6's & they just don't handle the same as a -4. Neither do the -8's. I wonder if Van designed out a bit of the responsiveness when he realized that a wider span of the pilot population would be flying his designs. Charlie Mike Wills wrote: > Charlie, > > I've heard the same about the RV-3. I always assumed that the handling > improvement as you progressed (digressed?) from -6 to -4 to -3 was due > to the lighter airframes of the -4 and especially the -3. But my -4 is > a bit of a pig and only about 30 pounds lighter than my -6A was. I'm > convinced that there's a definite difference in the handling that I > dont think can be attributed to being just 30 pounds lighter. Maybe > its just the perspective of sitting on the centerline. Or maybe the > perception is clouded by 13 years worth of building. Anyway, I'm not > complaining. :-) > > Do you hear anything from Chuck these days? He seems to have fallen > off the face of the earth. > > Mike Wills > RV-4 N144MW > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie England" > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:38 AM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Second flight > > >> Mike Wills wrote: >> >snipped> >>> Other impressions. The airplane is loud, but not painfully so. At >>> least not from the pilot's seat. The handling and control power >>> still seem quite a bit better than my RV-6A (which was great). Not >>> really clear why but most of my flying in the -6A I had someone in >>> the right seat so maybe the weight? Other than the rudder, the >>> airplane flies perfectly straight. >>> All things considered I'm real happy. This flight was considerably >>> less stressful than the first and I actually was able to enjoy it. I >>> honestly dont remember a lot of the first flight. Also, I took my >>> glider data logger with me on this flight. I havent downloaded it >>> yet, but when I do I'll know more about speeds, climb rate, etc. >>> Dont know how you guys feel about these flight reports. Give me >>> some feedback if you want more as my testing progresses. I know that >>> I like reading about other's flight experiences as it motivated me >>> to keep going. After 13 years of building I'll tell you, its worth >>> it. Now I wish I'd pressed harder to get it done sooner. >>> Next flight will have to wait until I get gear leg stiffeners >>> added. Classic RV - pretty bad shimmy on the roll out after landing. >>> 38.5 hours to go! >>> Mike Wills >>> RV-4 N144MW >> >> Hi Mike, >> >> Keep 'em coming; that's how I learn. >> >> RV handling: As nice as the -6's handling is, it's nothing compared >> to a -4 (I'm currently flying my 2nd one, purchased from Chuck >> Dunlap). I've heard that the -3 is even better than the -4; if >> anyone wants to let me fly one to find out for myself, just let me know. >> >> Charlie >> RV-7 finish kit stage