X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao103.cox.net ([68.230.241.43] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTP id 3496393 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:09:42 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.43; envelope-from=rv-4mike@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo03.cox.net ([70.169.32.75]) by fed1rmmtao103.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090217010810.GEBJ12838.fed1rmmtao103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:08:10 -0500 Received: from wills ([68.105.85.56]) by fed1rmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id Gp871b00B1CvZmk04p8Alg; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:08:10 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5Zr3bzMqBHjTOI-dpfwA:9 a=L4HeazwB1TpqKJrc00UA:7 a=pqo0N_SKWtquMeIb8AuojQDVWSUA:4 a=v47ZLdibA2YA:10 a=S-p5rSrHV4bySqKhtBUA:9 a=B6dz8K9AH3q65_y-Tj0A:7 a=0AAF5O-WpPC3TXx9nhsn7PnC9_IA:4 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <001901c9909c$33513df0$38556944@wills> From: "Mike Wills" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Second flight Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:08:10 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C99059.24DA86C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C99059.24DA86C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Al, Yeah after I thought about it, 16.5" - 17" might not be a bad place to = set it. 20" - 21" is not a good choice - I frequently cruise at that = power setting when not in a hurry to get anywhere. My test area is a huge chunk of the east county, but I have to cross = Otay Mt. to get there. My DAR wouldnt allow any of the Class E under the = Class B to the north and northeast so I dont really have a lot of good = options. I think you used the same DAR, Alan Purdy? He mentioned having = done another rotary on a canard airplane in the past. He must have been = a lot more lenient with you than he was with me. I need to study a = sectional and maybe go do a little recon flight to see whats landable in = the immediate area beyond Otay. I've flown out there with the RV-6A and = prior to that, the C-140 quite a bit and dont recall a lot of good = choices but probably worth another look. Borrego is within my test area. = Ramona is more forgiving than Brown, but I do like that 8,000' of = concrete under me for the early flights. Mike Wills RV-4 N144MW ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Al Gietzen=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 4:00 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Second flight Great; Mike. Sounds like things are proceeding well. I have the stage point set at about 16.5", and it is completely = seamless. That is helped by the auto-tune feature in the EM2, but I did = have it pretty well nailed before I had the auto-tune - so it is = possible. I do find that above the stage point it gets richer if I = disable the secondary, so I guess at some point I need to adjust mode 6 = and do some retuning. Throttled back to 5000 RPM and just flew racetracks over the airport = for an hour. My flight test area is very restrictive. I've got a huge = piece of the desert to the east but have to cross a 3500' mountain and = 30 - 40 miles of rugged terrain to get there. Not until I have a few = more hours on it in flight and have 100% confidence. I have the Mexican = border 2 miles south, Class B 2 miles north and the Pacific Ocean 5 = miles west. So racetracks over the airport are going to be the norm for = a few hours. Yeah; Brown field was within my test area, but I only went there once = - too restrictive, and bad terrain. I had a similar situation doing = flight testing out of Ramona. It didn't take me long to figure out that = climbing out to the north there is a flat spot with an abandoned strip = about 7 miles out; then I could head ENE over bad terrain about 10 miles = over Warner Springs glider port; then E over the highest terrain and get = out over the dessert. Keeping a climb going until over the highest = terrain it was only a few minutes that I wasn't within gliding distance = of some place I could put down if I had to. Maybe you can find a = reasonable route. Borrego Springs is a good place to go for T & G's, = and practice emergency landings - not much traffic out there. Is that = within your test area? All the best, Al ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C99059.24DA86C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Al,
 
 Yeah after I thought about it, = 16.5" - 17"=20 might not be a bad place to set it. 20" - 21" is not a good choice - I=20 frequently cruise at that power setting when not in a hurry to get=20 anywhere.
 
 My test area is a huge chunk of = the east=20 county, but I have to cross Otay Mt. to get there. My DAR wouldnt allow = any of=20 the Class E under the Class B to the north and northeast so I dont = really=20 have a lot of good options. I think you used the same DAR, Alan Purdy? = He=20 mentioned having done another rotary on a canard airplane in the past. = He must=20 have been a lot more lenient with you than he was with me. I need to = study a=20 sectional and maybe go do a little recon flight to see whats landable in = the=20 immediate area beyond Otay. I've flown out there with the RV-6A and = prior=20 to that, the C-140 quite a bit and dont recall a lot of good choices but = probably worth another look. Borrego is within my test area. Ramona = is more=20 forgiving than Brown, but I do like that 8,000' of concrete under me for = the=20 early flights.
 
Mike Wills
RV-4 N144MW
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Al = Gietzen=20
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 = 4:00=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Second = flight

Great; = Mike. =20 Sounds like things are proceeding well.

 

I have = the stage=20 point set at about 16.5=94, and it is completely seamless. That is = helped by the=20 auto-tune feature in the EM2, but I did have it pretty well nailed = before I=20 had the auto-tune =96 so it is possible.  I do find that above = the stage=20 point it gets richer if I disable the secondary, so I guess at some = point I=20 need to adjust mode 6 and do some retuning.

 

 Throttled back to = 5000 RPM=20 and just flew racetracks over the airport for an hour. My flight test = area is=20 very restrictive. I've got a huge piece of the desert to the east but = have to=20 cross a 3500' mountain and 30 - 40 miles of rugged terrain to get = there. Not=20 until I have a few more hours on it in flight and have 100% = confidence. I have=20 the Mexican border 2 miles south, Class B 2 miles north and the = Pacific Ocean=20 5 miles west. So racetracks over the airport are going to be the norm = for a=20 few hours.

 

Yeah; = Brown field=20 was within my test area, but I only went there once =96 too = restrictive, and bad=20 terrain. I had a similar situation doing flight testing out of Ramona. = It=20 didn=92t take me long to figure out that climbing out to the north = there is a=20 flat spot with an abandoned strip about 7 miles out; then I could head = ENE=20 over bad terrain about 10 miles over Warner Springs glider port; then = E over=20 the highest terrain and get out over the dessert.  Keeping a = climb going=20 until over the highest terrain it was only a few minutes that I = wasn=92t within=20 gliding distance of some place I could put down if I had to.  = Maybe you=20 can find a reasonable route.  Borrego Springs is a good place to = go for T=20 & G=92s, and practice emergency landings =96 not much traffic out = there. Is=20 that within your test area?

 

All the=20 best,

 

Al

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