X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.181] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.11) with ESMTP id 3430254 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:13:07 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.146.181; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j4so1080725wah.3 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:12:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=mbmBwoDOyGb7DASFzudg9MKSRFMLMUlaI85kDiou/tQ=; b=Grbfq5TYlDxokzir/nXwmwP0XQ/wKsV0nGsfNgFIK1j66o4fOmtRfUsK3ck+DCltA4 ANqTNU6T3epVff/8fd1TDdMv538jwaO8CSqd7nCYTTXyGcFyb8wX+S1QUCs5lC5QyURW mCbZcwXbHSaB/xPObie4CJ9nCv01fAItY/UMI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=ZF13k83cSEUGsJI1H+UY+GhiV9quhQiq0iGEf99BSgTKYpcWO/QOEKgRQVwXfH3hLn OxTy6BibMLGNw+9f11IEFGuK2wgBFRRCc+V10cnOgGzXYCxMjem4oKenxxyJmF77iEeS oBQRGPfUI04Qk/Fb6W9CCp61WIPtlzHqOUTIk= Received: by 10.114.146.6 with SMTP id t6mr2079826wad.207.1232143951869; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:12:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.150.4 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:12:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1b4b137c0901161412m24876c81o4cd76d2f39ddd29c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:12:31 -0500 From: "Tracy Crook" Sender: rwstracy@gmail.com To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] another Muffler In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: a91d857957448433 Nice data Steve. Your speed change correlates closely with what I measured on my RV-4 with and without the Spintech and Edelbrock RPM mufflers (3 - 4 mph reduction with the muffler). The smaller Hushpower II that I use now only drops it by a barely measurable 1 mph but it is mounted closer to the belly in the turbulent air behind the cooling outlet. I used a .007" thick SS shield pop riveted to the belly also and this worked well even with no insulation between SS and aluminum. When the SS sheet heats up, it expands slightly creating an air gap between it and the fuselage which nicely isolated the heat. The Hushpower II looses some but not all of it's effectiveness as it ages (loosing packing probably) so I'm still searching for the optimum muffler. You might be on to something here. Wish it was available off the shelf. Tracy On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:57 PM, sboese wrote: > > > The following muffler description is provided purely as another data point > in the muffler discussion. I would suspect that not many of you would be > interested in it due to its large size and external mounting. I have had > good service from it so far and it fits somewhat into my loosely interpreted > Navy F6F Hellcat inverted paint scheme as a bomb. > > > > The materials of construction are 0.032" thick 304 SS and the design is > based on data in NACA Report 1192. The weight is 9.6 lb and the diameter is > 6.25 inches. A SS heat shield is also installed between the muffler and the > fuselage belly. I have about 100 hours on this installation with no signs > of deterioration of the muffler. The engine is NA with exhaust splitters > and is operated normally at density altitudes above 7000 ft which limits max > power, although several hours of max power operation at DA lower than 5000 > ft have not damaged this muffler so far. > > > > I have been told that from the ground, the primary source of noise for my > plane is the propeller. I have landed with a C172 following me in the > pattern and observers told me that they did not know I was there until I > taxied in since they only heard the C172. I have no quantitative data on > the noise characteristics of my muffler system. Inside the cockpit, the > noise level goes from reasonable to unbearable if the muffler is removed. > This is purely subjective, of course. > > > > Not shown in the "muffler parts" image are three 1" x 1" angles made from > the same material as the shell that connect the rear of the internal center > tube to the front of the rear cone section. The round flange in the center > of the internal tube is a push fit in the shell and is not fastened directly > to the shell. A down turn also has been added to the outlet of the rear > cone section. > > > > From data in the "muffler test chart" image, the speed penalty of the > muffler is about 3 kt. > > > > The "muffler in flight" photo may be of interest in that it shows the heat > distribution in the muffler with the dark areas being hotter. This image is > not current since the lower cowling has been modified and the engine cooling > air outlet is now much smaller than shown in this photo. > > > > Steve Boese > > RV6A, 1986 13B NA, EC2, RD1A > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > >