X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao106.cox.net ([68.230.241.40] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.11) with ESMTP id 3415968 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:35:34 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.40; envelope-from=rv-4mike@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo03.cox.net ([70.169.32.75]) by fed1rmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090108033451.YTFZ12540.fed1rmmtao106.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 22:34:51 -0500 Received: from wills ([68.105.85.56]) by fed1rmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id 0rap1b00N1CvZmk04rarKu; Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:34:51 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=kjNl5hc4IzGEK2dgGLcA:9 a=5XkEdwVZratMs8MAg7IA:7 a=T3MHzrA-FANlyyQ4BQyCaJAni5kA:4 a=eJojReuL3h0A:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=ftFGBYpk1mUA:10 a=J3kPgAfI5rUA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <008801c97142$10c6bd10$38556944@wills> From: "Mike Wills" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: muffler design Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:34:51 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Huh. Well it sure doesnt look as elegant as my welded stainless 2 into 1 header, but if it works it might be worth making the change. And would be cheap - I've got one floating around somewhere. One question. Do you know if Paul ran housings with the splitters or without? Mike Wills ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie England" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 10:09 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: muffler design >I hope this attachment works. > > It's an email from the late Paul Conner with images of his 'muffler' on > his SQ2000. If you factor in 'goodness' as part of the quiet equation, > Paul had it all over anything else I've heard in over 10 years of > watching (& hearing) rotary powered a/c except Dennis Haverlah, & he > cheats by using a Renesis. While his plane wasn't silent, it wasn't any > louder than a typical Lyc and it was much more pleasing to listen to > than a 4cyl Lyc (& quite a bit more pleasant than the 2stroke-like bark > of a typical rotary. It really sounded like a healthy automotive V-8. > > It's also pretty hard to beat for simplicity and even weight. Obviously > cost a little HP, but real tuned headers + an equal performance muffler > would weigh several times as much & just might drive the HP back to > Paul's configuration. Run the HP vs weight gain vs money numbers.... > > Charlie > > Christopher Barber wrote: >> Yeah, what John Slade said.....I hope >> >> All the best, >> >> Chris >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Slade" >> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" >> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:12 PM >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: muffler design >> >> >>> How about sending the exhaust into a circular chamber with a spinning >>> wheel at the end to slow the exhaust down and absorb some of the >>> energy? Of course the chamber would have to be very strong, and the >>> wheel would have to have very good bearings and be made of something >>> like inconel. Perhaps you could even harness some of the energy >>> captured by the wheel to do useful work.... >>> >>> Hey! Hold on a minute.... there's such a device on the market - A >>> Turbonetics turbo. :) >>> >>> John (quieter than a C172) Slade > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >