X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.174] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.1) with ESMTP id 2812831 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:15:41 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.200.174; envelope-from=bartrim@gmail.com Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so1831872wfa.25 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:15:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole:importance:in-reply-to; bh=UXTs/U7AxQ+JM+o8u6E7qgFhyzIg6I9tev5UzHIyOOE=; b=jv3l8CrlL5c7V+mbQyGyktOVRjfipGHG111Qbkuia2cFT0bJbqWeXUFlkYuSyYIxB29cUHS48A94kdQlhkNN8Mko7OQuhRhlv134USX7bVFeeBhfmOCnuGCkvD56H7ZCyKjDvhSmrYx5n5CnzcJpPcHBohGBqH51soDdCThH6PQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole:importance:in-reply-to; b=qgC9a5fcSYn65z6VwP6v/xUBNCe4008PyH8n9C9T7lZ+DxUvf1gxu0bhMSQQUDvWcDSqK15k4UlX3EbcilJussUmIAH5rtFil/gix9zLGGQwk5og9G+xTZQdPgeDfqMutXIeBflVu+rE9CFLbjEJeBKDcXRZzBhBkSxcdNmOPLg= Received: by 10.142.191.2 with SMTP id o2mr2919098wff.209.1206166504317; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from Endurance ( [205.250.240.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm8895207wfi.12.2008.03.21.23.15.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:15:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "Todd Bartrim" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] I think I screwed up Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:14:59 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Hi Ernest; I'm not certain I understand clearly, but it sounds like you filled in the end of the runner without the variable insert in place? If so, that's' what I thought we were supposed to do? At least that's what I did. Did it make a difference? Don't know? That's the way it's shown on the Bruce Turrentine rebuild video. If you really feel like you need to remove the JB weld it's easy to do with a oxy/acetylene torch. Just lightly brush it with the flame, avoiding any direct flame contact with the surrounding metal and you will find the JB weld will crumble easily and can be brushed away with no problem. I've used it to mount my injector bungs to my aluminum intake as it allows for precise positioning of the injector without any of the slight warping or distortion that's common with an amateur TIG welder like me, but when a redesign required repositioning, the torch removed all epoxy without the slightest hint of excess heat to the thin aluminum injector bung, so I can't imagine that you would have any trouble with the iron housings. Todd Bartrim -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Ernest Christley Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:46 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] I think I screwed up I think Chris and I are getting into a battle to see who can destroy the most rotary parts the fastest. I mixed up some JB-Weld and aluminum powder to fill in the upper runner on my side housings. I'm using the 6-port, which usually caries an insert in the upper runner. The insert ends with a flat wall, so the SOP is to fill it in with some epoxy to form a smooth curve into the chamber. Knuckle-head that I am, I just filled in the end of the runner, not the insert. I didn't notice until I was checking the profile of the rear side housing to make sure that it matched the front. That was AFTER the JBWeld had set, of course. The question now is "Will the slightly larger diameter for those two inches make a noticable difference in the engines performance?" If the answer is what I think it is, I have the option of using a front housing that has a little more wear, or dig out the JBWeld and get an insert. (Does anyone have an extra lying around? -- http://www.ronpaultimeline.com -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html