X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail35.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.133.51] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.0) with ESMTPS id 2793394 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:47:16 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=211.29.133.51; envelope-from=lendich@optusnet.com.au Received: from george (d220-237-235-225.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.237.235.225]) by mail35.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id m2FLkOsV028642 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:46:26 +1100 Message-ID: <002201c886e6$05fa02d0$e1ebeddc@george> From: "George Lendich" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Various Possible solutions to coolant in housing Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:46:25 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01C88739.D642D950" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0657-0, 12/12/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C88739.D642D950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lynn, If it wasn't for Kelly, with my encouragement, as I was trying to = establish the correct sizes from Australia at the time, the correct = sizes would never have been identified as, 'you know who' was preaching = his usual, 'he who is always right sermon' about the sizes. As far as I = know those sizes ( the wrong ones) are still being bandied about even = though I supplied the correct sizes to him, for the benefit of other = builders. Kelly was the only one to get off his bum to do something. For the = life of me I don't know why it wasn't done like that in the first place = - so I whole heartedly agree on your comments. George ( down under) There is nothing wrong with using the very best pieces in the rotary. = I have suffered the loss of one set of oil scraper "O" rings since 1980, = and lost a weekend over it (and an engine rebuild) We had a piece of = plastic end up over the oil cooler and the driver didn't notice the = needle on the oil temp pointing at the little picture of the sun on the = dial. No problem during the race. The next weekend we towed it to Indy = and fired it up to take off of the trailer and it smoked like crazy. = Nothing to do but go home. I could have rebuilt it there but I took no = parts with me. They are so reliable you know.=20 The "O" rings were in 1" long pieces. All of them. I have no Idea how = far past incinerate the oil temp went too, so no help there. This = failure had no effect on engine power, but oil consumption would have = been substantial and in an aircraft probably would have gone unnoticed, = and all of the oil could be lost. The "O" ring substitution story is a = long one, and seems to have ended with the pieces going to the "O" ring = people for sizing last in the story, instead of first, as should have = been the case. There is a tendency to speculate rather than go to the = horses mouth on the first go around. Lynn E. Hanover In a message dated 3/15/2008 6:51:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, = msteitle@gmail.com writes: Kelly,=20 Its good to feel like you're adding something of value to the = discussion once in a while. ;-) I'm not sure I could have gotten into = the air without the Fly Rotary list. Its been an invaluable resource to = me for many years now. As for the TES O-rings... I'm sold on them and = wouldn't hesitate to use them again if the need arises. Mark S.=20 30.1 hrs -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1329 - Release Date: = 14/03/2008 12:33 PM ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C88739.D642D950 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Lynn,
If it wasn't for Kelly, with my = encouragement,=20 as I was trying to establish the correct sizes from Australia at the = time, the=20 correct sizes would never have been identified as, 'you know who' was=20 preaching his usual, 'he who is always right sermon' about the sizes. = As far=20 as I know those sizes ( the wrong ones) are still being bandied about = even=20 though I supplied the correct sizes to him, for the benefit of other=20 builders.
 
Kelly was the only one to get off his = bum to do=20 something. For the life of me I don't know why it wasn't done like = that in the=20 first place - so I whole heartedly agree on your comments.
George ( down under)
 
There is nothing wrong with using the very best pieces in the = rotary. I=20 have suffered the loss of one set of oil scraper "O" rings since = 1980,=20 and lost a weekend over it (and an engine rebuild) We had a piece of = plastic=20 end up over the oil cooler and the driver didn't notice the needle on = the oil=20 temp pointing at the little picture of the sun on the dial. No problem = during=20 the race. The next weekend we towed it to Indy and fired it up to take = off of=20 the trailer and it smoked like crazy. Nothing to do but go home. I = could have=20 rebuilt it there but I took no parts with me. They are so reliable you = know.=20
 
The "O" rings were in 1" long pieces. All of them. I have no Idea = how far=20 past incinerate the oil temp went too, so no help there. This failure = had no=20 effect on engine power, but oil consumption would have been = substantial and in=20 an aircraft probably would have gone unnoticed, and all of the oil = could be=20 lost. The "O" ring substitution story is a long one, and seems to = have=20 ended with the pieces going to the "O" ring people for sizing last in = the=20 story, instead of first, as should have been the case. There = is a=20 tendency to speculate rather than go to the horses mouth on the first = go=20 around.
 
Lynn E. Hanover
 
 
 
In a message dated 3/15/2008 6:51:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 msteitle@gmail.com writes:
Kelly,=20
Its good to feel like you're adding something of value to the = discussion=20 once in a while. ;-)  I'm not sure I could have gotten into the = air=20 without the Fly Rotary list.  Its been an invaluable resource = to me for=20 many years now.  As for the TES O-rings... I'm sold on them and = wouldn't hesitate to use them again if the need arises.

Mark = S.=20
30.1 hrs




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