X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com ([209.85.200.173] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.0) with ESMTP id 2793029 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:09:40 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.200.173; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so4467540wfa.25 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 08:08:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=kDKtTuwnnyOnhN0Di4W3MXPA6IIuax0Vb0/jwY0cX4c=; b=WB0oVrJ9w7SQGLvL+bIlVCRpNmq82AX9ETEE+PwTnJm3g6FoP5ngZ6FoTB9h7iEz3IB1wVBKwaDhGZyldkWTkiEWgnvqiV6nxP2kSAYOUEh9Q7hbVY9Q6DjXWKnuzHdaP46mB9JAqKvrWcCzjN64A4K6ZdyIXfhQZtyx82XHRao= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=xXttZ2pQiQ5YJt0WWqAqzzabPFtg+YvM80X0/DjpVMZtb06WBle1oT0+avASA6labV7pzXpCI4ze1X6UCWcitdS82AjyTJSU4pPyEQDe+b1586e3MwI2VmIl4+Lp6QVUZOSfA14dxDJZgBmMkyJZlAfQYNPsbV4YcKVwOB3yrqo= Received: by 10.141.136.19 with SMTP id o19mr7005892rvn.250.1205593728387; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 08:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.90.20 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 08:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5cf132c0803150808n7802eccexdd78290f8554e88d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 10:08:48 -0500 From: "Mark Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil temps, O-rings In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5583_16870386.1205593728258" References: ------=_Part_5583_16870386.1205593728258 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Al, I think that Ed could build one for you. He seemed very interested in my arrangement. Mark S. On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Al Gietzen wrote: > Kelly; that's where I ordered mine and found it where no longer > available. The week before he had checked, and they were available. I've > checked 3 other vendors =96 no one has one in stock. I'm looking at the = MoCal > Laminova C43-330 (http://64.202.180.37/files/laminova.pdf). Very compact= , > but lower heat rejection capability that the TOC 300. > > > > Al > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] *O= n > Behalf Of *Kelly Troyer > *Sent:* Friday, March 14, 2008 10:24 PM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Oil temps, O-rings > > > > Al, > > Check with these people............ > > > > > http://www.speedtoys.biz/index.php?main_page=3Dproduct_info&cPath=3D194&p= roducts_id=3D741 > > > > -- > Kelly Troyer > "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 > "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold > > > > > -------------- Original message from "Al Gietzen" : > -------------- > > > Mark, > > That is the kind of "Real World" info we like to > hear.......Particularly > > since there is some difference of opinion as to the need or suitability > > for the use of the "TES" seals among the group.......... > > -- > Kelly Troyer > > My 20B has the stock O-rings, and I've had the engine exit oil up to > 235-240 a number of times, coolant temp to 200F =96 never for very long -= no > issues. I figure a max short duration limit on the pan temp is 250. Max o= n > oil return, about 220F. Cruise below 190. > > I'm installing an oil/coolant exchanger looking to reduce the oil temp by > about 15 degrees. > > I had done all my analysis around using a Setrab TOC300, then when > ordering found they have stopped making it. Anyone have one lying around= ? > > Al > > > > ------=_Part_5583_16870386.1205593728258 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Al,

I think that Ed could build one for you.  He seemed very i= nterested in my arrangement.

Mark S.

On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net> wrote:

Kelly; that's where I ordered mine and found it where no longer available. The week before he had checked, and they were available. I've checked 3 other vendors =96 no one has one in stock.  I'm looking at the MoCal Laminov= a C43-330 (http://64.202.180.37/files/laminova.pdf).  Very compact, but lower heat rejection capability that the TOC 300.

 

Al

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in air= craft [mailto:fl= yrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Kelly Troyer
Sent: Friday, March 14, 20= 08 10:24 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircr= aft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Oil t= emps, O-rings

=  

= Al,

=   Check with these people............=

=  

=   

--=
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold


=  

= -------------- Original message from "= ;Al Gietzen" <A= LVentures@cox.net>: --------------


Mark,

    That is the kind of "= ;Real World" info we like to hear.......Particularly

since there is some difference of opinion as= to the need or suitability

for the use of the "TES" seals amo= ng the group..........

-- Kelly Troyer

My 20B has the stock O-rings, and I= 've had the engine exit oil up to 235-240 a number of times, coolant temp to 20= 0F =96 never for very long - no issues. I figure a max short duration limit on the pan temp is 250. Max on oil return, about 220F.  Cruise below 190.=

I'm installing an oil/coolant excha= nger looking to reduce the oil temp by about 15 degrees.

I had done all my analysis around u= sing a Setrab TOC300, then when ordering found they have stopped making it.  Anyone have one lying around?

Al

 


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