X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.239] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.0) with ESMTP id 2792821 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 07:00:45 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.249.82.239; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so4463038wxd.25 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 04:00:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=+w4IALlPotONFgUlxVa8gUN/y0xdZDFcb1nScw/puVU=; b=Ifs9+c9djwfmfOkosq3vYDj7r8ndWK3sRpA0v2V1iwfB27XHrSqwQJY9ce9KqnR6hIdTvQCqiJLnOEmk9Xnc+gfz99lMqgZ9WoYoPofHmyxB30UYwshacnF1kbE7GJ3wIbQGsSfXeGjzsGfD2YDca7DTMSRrbI0Y68HMTh5e7Os= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=BCug6+QD7pCauSAABLShEmg4z29/ufSnBd0sZCx7GSobBpwbXspnQW1b9Fn75VoRTbdbEZ14rAleu7shObd5ZBTqqNbh6ITxJk2f3fag8KI6lIulX4/2Au4B6QM74XVh3vXbWeMFtpMERhhv4W/0jbxiyIxiuyGSz4f5p4Jf8Ak= Received: by 10.70.53.17 with SMTP id b17mr6669800wxa.6.1205578807378; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 04:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.90.20 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 04:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5cf132c0803150400m226277c6o709cfad48ef90da3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:00:07 -0500 From: "Mark Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Oil temps, O-rings In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5018_31532943.1205578807376" References: ------=_Part_5018_31532943.1205578807376 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Kelly, After reading Al's post, I need to make a clarification on my previous oil temp information. The 245* temps were *after* the cooler, at the oil filte= r pad, so who knows what they were coming out of the engine. Over the last year I've instrumented my oil & water cooling systems so many different way= s that I sometimes get confused as to what I'm reading on the EFIS & EM-2. Presently, I'm taking oil temp readings after the first oil/air cooler, the= n after the oil/water exchanger (as the oil enters the engine). I do this to monitor how well each of the oil coolers are working. Sorry for the confusion. Mark S. On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 12:54 AM, Al Gietzen wrote: > Mark, > > That is the kind of "Real World" info we like to > hear.......Particularly > > since there is some difference of opinion as to the need or suitability > > for the use of the "TES" seals among the group.......... > > -- > Kelly Troyer > > My 20B has the stock O-rings, and I've had the engine exit oil up to > 235-240 a number of times, coolant temp to 200F =96 never for very long -= no > issues. I figure a max short duration limit on the pan temp is 250. Max o= n > oil return, about 220F. Cruise below 190. > > I'm installing an oil/coolant exchanger looking to reduce the oil temp by > about 15 degrees. > > I had done all my analysis around using a Setrab TOC300, then when > ordering found they have stopped making it. Anyone have one lying around= ? > > Al > > > > ------=_Part_5018_31532943.1205578807376 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Kelly,
After reading Al's post, I need to make a clarification on m= y previous oil temp information.  The 245* temps were after the= cooler, at the oil filter pad, so who knows what they were coming out of t= he engine.  Over the last year I've instrumented my oil & wate= r cooling systems so many different ways that I sometimes get confused as t= o what I'm reading on the EFIS & EM-2.   Presently, I'= ;m taking oil temp readings after the first oil/air cooler, then after the = oil/water exchanger (as the oil enters the engine).  I do this to moni= tor how well each of the oil coolers are working.  Sorry for the confu= sion.

Mark S.


On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1= 2:54 AM, Al Gietzen <ALVentures@co= x.net> wrote:

= Mark,

=     That is the kind of &qu= ot;Real World" info we like to hear.......Particularly

= since there is some difference of opinion = as to the need or suitability

= for the use of the "TES" seals a= mong the group..........

--=
Kelly Troyer

My 20B has the stock O-rings, and I've had the engine exit oil up to 235-240 a number of times, coolant temp to 200F =96 never for very long - no issues= . I figure a max short duration limit on the pan temp is 250. Max on oil retu= rn, about 220F.  Cruise below 190.

I'm installing an oil/coolant exchanger looking to reduce the oil temp by about= 15 degrees.

I had done all my analysis around using a Setrab TOC300, then when ordering f= ound they have stopped making it.  Anyone have one lying around?

Al