X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.17] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.0) with ESMTP id 2761640 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:36:05 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.17; envelope-from=gregw@onestopdesign.biz Received: from OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id v5Zn1Y0010QkzPwAA00N00; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:34:31 +0000 Received: from gregoryii ([24.6.40.29]) by OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id v5bQ1Y0040dkeQQ8N00000; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:35:25 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4yAoENlD6CDg5cZOmoAA:9 a=jpwLI3AUmCkiI-IUK_4A:7 a=Ksx9Ncb3X7dAJ0TBAJ-XcCohyvsA:4 a=QMgMR9M9BAsA:10 a=TDRy5DSWAASpKL0QZggA:9 a=-fY_5aC_Lmd7dYUBcYoA:7 a=l2i3e9E9RlpdUtKSGO8ploxzh74A:4 a=iVkDmfvjeKcA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: <015901c87a30$901e41a0$8801a8c0@yosemite.onestopdesign.biz> From: "Greg Ward" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: RX-8 coil caution Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:37:16 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0156_01C879ED.8160E480" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0156_01C879ED.8160E480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff Owens took a look at them when I unpacked them, and seemed to think = they would work. I'll send you the part numbers if that will help, and = pictures. Greg ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tracy Crook=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: RX-8 coil caution I don't have any info on the stock 20B coils so don't know if they are = compatible or not. I did see a them once and wow, are they heavy! I'd = go with the LS-1 coils for that reason alone. As always, I stress making sure the ambient air temp around all coils = is kept lower than 130 F. The D581 coils WILL fail above this temp. = That is why I recommend only the D580 or D585 type. There are no known = failures on them but they should still be kept cool (<130 degrees). I = just finished making the coil air box for my 20B. It will be fed cool = air from a small scat tube (~1") connected to the radiator plenum. Tracy =20 On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Greg Ward = wrote: I got the factory 20b coils from the original Cosmo with my engine, = not sure if they're the same as the Renesis, but I plan on using them if = they are compatible with the EC2. Greg Ward Lancair Ho! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tracy Crook=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:31 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: RX-8 coil caution FWIW, I report the following just for general interest and a = heads-up, not as a warning not to use RX-8 Renesis coils (at least not = yet). From the car racing corwd, I have been getting a lot of reports = and requests for information about using LS-1 coils on RX-8 cars. They = have been having some failures of Renesis coils and are asking if the = LS-1 coils will work on the stock ECU. There is also a rumor of Mazda = coming out with updated RX-8 coils, possibly as a result of these = failures. The only report I have of problems with Renesis coils on aircraft = was from Ian Beedle who had some fail on his plane. It was thought that = this was due to his EC2 being programmed for LS-1 coils but this may not = be the case in light of these reports. I am using 6 Renesis coils on my 20B with about 15 hours of ground = testing, no problems so far. Tracy ------=_NextPart_000_0156_01C879ED.8160E480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jeff Owens took a look at them when I unpacked = them, and=20 seemed to think they would work.  I'll send you the part numbers if = that=20 will help, and pictures.
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tracy=20 Crook
Sent: Thursday, February 28, = 2008 9:31=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: RX-8 = coil=20 caution

I don't have any info on the stock 20B coils so don't know if = they are=20 compatible or not.   I did see a them once and wow, are = they=20 heavy!  I'd go with the LS-1 coils for that reason alone.
 
As always, I stress making sure the ambient air temp = around all=20 coils is kept lower than 130 F.   The D581 coils WILL fail = above=20 this temp.  That is why I recommend only the D580 or D585 = type. =20 There are no known failures on them but they should still be kept = cool=20 (<130 degrees).   I just finished making the coil air box = for=20 my 20B.  It will be fed cool air from a small scat tube=20 (~1") connected to the radiator plenum.
 
Tracy  

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Greg Ward = <gregw@onestopdesign.biz>=20 wrote:
I got the factory 20b coils from the = original Cosmo=20 with my engine, not sure if they're the same as the Renesis, but I = plan on=20 using them if they are compatible with the EC2.
Greg Ward
Lancair Ho!
----- Original Message ----- =
From: = Tracy Crook
To: Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft
Sent: Wednesday, February = 27, 2008=20 5:31 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = RX-8 coil=20 caution

FWIW, I report the following just for general interest and a=20 heads-up, not as a warning not to use RX-8 Renesis coils (at least = not=20 yet).
 
From the car racing corwd, I have been getting a lot of = reports and=20 requests for information about using LS-1 coils on RX-8 = cars.  They=20 have been having some failures of Renesis coils and are asking if = the LS-1=20 coils will work on the stock ECU.  There is also a rumor of = Mazda=20 coming out with updated RX-8 coils, possibly as a result of these=20 failures.
 
The only report I have of problems with Renesis coils on = aircraft was=20 from Ian Beedle who had some fail on his plane.  It was = thought that=20 this was due to his EC2 being programmed for LS-1 coils but this = may not=20 be the case in light of these reports.
 
I am using 6 Renesis coils on my 20B with about 15 hours of = ground=20 testing, no problems so far.
 
Tracy
 
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