Received-SPF: none
 receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.62.16; envelope-from=cbarber@texasattorney.net
Message-ID: <11ABAEBAE8EF47B18A80821867F8EB6F@ChristopherNB>
From: "Christopher Barber" <CBarber@TexasAttorney.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
References: <list-2757667@logan.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-2757667@logan.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: More Musings...ah screw it, just shoot me!
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:20:35 -0600
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
	format=flowed;
	charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Yes, two alternators, two regulators, two batteries per Bob Knuckles "The 
Electric Connection" Z-14 drawings.  (www.aeroelectric.com). A Crossover 
switch allows for both batteries to be used at the same time for cranking. 
Independent systems otherwise powering there own systems, but if need be, 
you have a complete back-up electrical system that can be called upon.

Thanks for the consideration of my current dilemmas.

All the best,

Chris


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob White" <bob@bob-white.com>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:41 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: More Musings...ah screw it, just shoot me!


> Hi Chris,
>
> Maybe I'm missing something here.  You need a regulator for the
> alternator.  Do you have two alternators?
>
> Bob W.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:28:39 -0600
> "Christopher Barber" <CBarber@TexasAttorney.net> wrote:
>
>> Got off work and happily headed to the hangar.  I was able to get it to 
>> start and stay pretty cool for a while as I played with the settings. 
>> Switched from Controller A to B, back to A, disabled the Primary 
>> Injectors, the Secondary Injectors(in succession <g>), switched back to 
>> B, did the disable toggle spring switch with an expected drop in 
>> RPM...switch back to center and expected RPM returns. Throttled up and 
>> the RPM steadily increased without jumping around until it got to 4999 or 
>> so and went to zero and started jumping around above 5000 rpm......no big 
>> deal yet as we discussed the possible noise issue yesterday and I have 
>> not checked the problems yet.  Used my laser temp gauge to see if the 
>> engine and the EM were kinda close, they were.  Tried out my new Harbor 
>> Freight laser RPM gauge, but couldn't get it to work right.  Ok, Several 
>> minutes has gone by so I shut down to let it cool.  Tried to restart to 
>> no avail...so I decide to let the system cool for an extended period.
>>
>> While waiting I decide to install my new B&C $230.00ish Regulator. 
>> Already have one of these gems on the primary battery system and feel it 
>> is time to install the new one that arrived a couple of weeks ago on the 
>> Aux side of things, so I shut down all the systems, disconnect the 
>> batteries, crimp some new connectors on some of the wires to fit the new 
>> regulator get everything hooked back up and feel pretty good about the 
>> night.  Heh heh heh, silly me.
>>
>> A while has gone by and everything seems to have cooled off.  I hold my 
>> tongue just right and crank the engine and with some grace of the engine 
>> Gawds the thing cranks up.  Wait...what is this...the EM is showing the 
>> RPM, but, but oh, damn it is flashing NOP.  It was not doing that before. 
>> Damn.  Hmmmm, the Coolant temp and Oil temp are showing exactly the same 
>> temp at 44 degrees....lets see if they start to raise....Agggghhh, no, 
>> they are both stuck on 44 degrees F.  Geeeez.  I know, lets try the "B" 
>> controller and see what happens......NOOOOOOOOO, I switch to the "B" 
>> controller and the engine starts to die. Damn, damn, damn.  What the hell 
>> just happened?????  Thoughts????????
>>
>> Yes, I am disappointed in the evening that started on a positive note. 
>> This (Monday) is my Friday night and I have the next two days to make 
>> progress.  If'n y'all have any easy answers for me I would love to hear 
>> 'em as I would like to think the next two days would be steps forward as 
>> opposed to just trying to get back to where I was.  I did not even start 
>> to troubleshoot yet as I was too frustrated and needed to walk away for a 
>> while to sulk <g>.  Did I fry the "B": controller with a new/better 
>> regulator.  Everything was disconnected during the install and nothing 
>> else changed....OTHER than the instrument panel shifted from its 
>> temporary mount just before the second start.
>>
>> Hopin' for some insight and perspective before I go kick my dog when I go 
>> to the hangar tomorrow (ok, I would never kick Winston he is really a 
>> good dog, but y'all get the idea). As always, THANKS for your support.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Chris Barber
>> Houston
>
>
> -- 
> N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com
> 3.8 Hours Total Time and holding
> Cables for your rotary installation - http://roblinstores.com/cables/
>
> --
> Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/
> Archive and UnSub: 
> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
>