X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.64] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.0) with ESMTP id 2757577 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:48:07 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.64; envelope-from=wschertz@comcast.net Received: from OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tooC1Y0020lTkoCA70mb00; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:46:48 +0000 Received: from WschertzPC ([71.57.77.95]) by OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id u2nG1Y00M23NHuF8Q00000; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:47:18 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=hDIBanDfAAAA:8 a=kmZvq8cdAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=ztCvOCaCOH-dbMlL0yQA:9 a=cx0EWvBPWjgrUKi5A2gA:7 a=WGpCyhe-wz3iGbrLIZ96gmAkh_gA:4 a=NZj3MHm5q-cA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 Message-ID: <967AA91C6D764745818164E5B46BF6D1@WschertzPC> From: "Bill Schertz" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EM2 Warning light Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:47:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 I understand Bob, but: I had a 12V LED with 12V supply, and the wire from the EM-2 connected to the other terminal. I noticed that the LED glowed slightly all the time (very dim, but noticeable). I called and talked to Tracy, and he said to take a 5V lead out of the EM-2 and use a LED set up for 5V, that the 12V would overpower the circuit (my words not his) and allow a small current to flow through the LED, causing the dim glow. It was almost a year ago, but I believe that he said that if you use a filament bulb, it doesn't matter, but with the LED to use the 5V supply. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser #4045 N343BS (reserved) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob White" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 2:48 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EM2 Warning light > Hi Bill, > > My manual says to connect the + side to 12V unless the lamp requires a > different voltage. The output pulls the indicator light to ground, so > it shouldn't matter if it's hooked to +12 or +5. > > If using an LED, a series resistor is required to limit the current. > The LED's that are rated at 12V have a built in resistor so an external > one isn't needed. A typical LED will have a maximum current rating of > around 30 ma and that may be too bright especially at night. > > Something like a 600 ohm resistor would limit the current to between 15 > and 20 ma. There is approximately 2 volt drop across the diode and the > bus voltage varies by several volts so the actual current will vary > also. A smaller or larger resistor can be used to adjust the > brightness. (Check the specs for the LED you use of course.) > > Bob W. > > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:05:49 +0000 > wschertz@comcast.net wrote: > >> Check the manual -- I believe that the warning light should be connected >> to a 5 volt source. At least if using LED's. An LED will glow all the >> time if fed with 12V, but if it is incandescent, it won't light up. The >> EM-2 connects to ground when alarming >> Bill Schertz >> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >> From: Bob White >> > Hi Bob, >> > >> > It sounds like a wiring problem. The warning light should be connected >> > to the 12V bus on one side, and the other side is connected to the wire >> > from the EM2. If it's an LED, then polarity of the LED is important >> > too. >> > >> > When a reading is out of spec on the EM2, the reading also flashes. >> > That continues even when the ACK button is pushed. Are you seeing any >> > of the readings flash off and on on the EM2 display? >> > >> > Bob W. >> > >> > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:13:49 -0500 >> > bmears9413@aol.com wrote: >> > >> > > I dont have a warnig light hooked directly to the alternator. I >> > > understand >> > that if any display on my EM2 is out of "spec"..the display will flash >> > and the >> > warning light from the EM2 will light up untill you press the ACK >> > button. My >> > warning light never lights up...for any reason so far. >> > > >> > > Bob Mears >> > > >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Bob White >> > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> > > Sent: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:02 pm >> > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EM2 Warning light >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Hi Bob, >> > > >> > > Warning light connected to the alternator? It should come on when >> > > you >> > > power up and go out when the alternator starts putting out. If it's >> > > the >> > > warning light from the EM2, it should start flashing when anything >> > > goes >> > > out of it's range, and that's practically all the time when you're >> > > fist >> > > setting it up. If It's not coming on at all it sounds like something >> > > isn't hooked up right. >> > > >> > > On your water pressure, it should come up to cap pressure at the >> > > most. >> > > Do you have an air cushion in your system. If not, the pressure will >> > > go pretty high because of liquid expansion until a little liquid is >> > > pushed into the overflow tank. 23 psi isn't going to hurt the >> > > engine, >> > > but the EM2 calibration needs to be checked also. I was able to rent >> > > a >> > > cooling system pressure tester from AutoZone which helped with the >> > > calibration. >> > > >> > > Bob W. >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:46:39 EST >> > > BMears9413@aol.com wrote: >> > > >> > > > Is there a test mode on the EM2 warning lamp? My alternator is only >> > > > putting >> > > > out 12.6 volts and my EM2 has the voltage flashing, as it should. >> > > > But my >> > > > warning light doesn't light up. Shouldn't it? 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