X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao105.cox.net ([68.230.241.41] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.0) with ESMTP id 2713306 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:10:26 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.41; envelope-from=alventures@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmmtao105.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20080203160945.MPBF9710.fed1rmmtao105.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:09:45 -0500 Received: from BigAl ([72.192.137.74]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id l49x1Y0021cVYgg0000000; Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:09:57 -0500 From: "Al Gietzen" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Rotary within a rotary Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:10:40 -0800 Message-ID: <000001c8667f$5238e800$6401a8c0@BigAl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Forward: A very interesting engine concept. BSFC of .28 - wow. Be sure to = checkout the animation. Subject: REFLECTOR: Engine Answer? We've seen so many too-good-to-be-true alternative engine technologies = that we roll our eyes whenever we see the next one. One that has potential to = be a bit different is the legacy engine effort, being worked on at Oak = Ridge, TN with technical support of Oak Ridge National Lab and University of Tennessee and some decent (if inadequate) money behind them. It has = aspects of a rotary engine and Wankel but is designed to run of heavy fuels, = such as kerosene. Hallmarks: * An increase in efficiency of approximately 16% over an equivalent crankshaft engine * Potential for greater than 1.6 hp/lb=20 * Potential for 200 hp/ft3 of installed volume While the efficiency improvement over a crankshaft/recip engine is = modest, its biggest asset for aircraft (which they have not even thought about) = is the energy density. A 300hp unit would weigh 188# and be about 15" = diameter and about 15" long. As can be seen from the website, http://www.legacyengine.com/home/index.php?option=3Dcom_frontpage&Itemid=3D= 1 they are as much into finding partners and investors as they are about explaining the technology--not a good sign, but also not unusual for a = start up. They don't intend to manufacturer the engine, simply develop and license the technology. =20 Anyhow, I would give it a 2%-3% chance of ever seeing the light of a commercial day, but if it did, even if it fell a tad short of its performance specs, what an awesome aircraft engine--using heavy fuels at that.