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I agree, Bill.
While the example shown was not an aircraft rotor, I
did indeed loose the triangular bit of the apex seal during reassemble. It
fell between rotor and side housing into one of those lightening/balancing
divots cut into the rotor - Just my luck. If it had not fallen into the
divot but had simply got between the rotor and side housing, I doubt seriously
that the engine would have turned over at all. As, it was, it did turn
over, yes, with resistance - because I was in a hurry to get my aircraft back
from the unattended airport, I convinced my self the "resistance" was just sign
of a "good rebuild" with good solid compression.
Here are a few things that I should have paid attention
to:
1. It took a bit of effort to hand turn the
flywheel
2. While cranking it, was turning over slower than
normal
3. When I fired it up it would not idle below 2000 rpm
(obviously due to the high resistance)
4. After the first hour of running everything was
"normal" in that it would now idle at lower rpm and the resistance was
"gone"
Of course by step 4 the hour of running apparently wore the
seal piece down and the rotor housing had already incurred the damage that the
friction caused - which later led to my rebuild while stuck in Louisiana for 4
weeks.
Clearly having a dial torque reading to compare would have
helped. In fact, Bruce Turrentine and several folks told me something was
not right - and I should have listened, but just in too much of hurry to get it
done and into the aircraft - so I got to do it again, correct this time
{:>)
So your suggestion certainly has merit.
Ed
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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 1:04
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Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Emailing:
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Ed and group,
This assembly problem is vexing. We really need to avoid these types of
foul up! When I built race cars and motorcycles the assembler (usually me)
would try to learn what kind of force it should require to turn over a newly
built engine. That is, how much friction to expect when turning over a brand
spanking new engine for the first time. Cosworth even has a torque table that
suggests you use a dial torque wrench for that first rev or two. If you see
higher than suspected torque do not turn the engine over or even through the
tight spot! Learning these forces saved one of my best customers a completely
mangled engine! (Anecdote warning!)
Guy M. my customer informed me that he would do the basic
assembly of the "long block" including putting on the head so all I would
have to do was time the cams. (Engine was a Kawasaki 900 with
considerable modification to run in an SCCA C sports racer.) Guy was
an EXCELLENT mechanic in his own right so I thought, "great that part is
easy but tedious so I won't have to do it." I installed the cams
correctly, and did the all important first revolution by hand. At TDC there
was a very small change in friction, that would have been easy to miss if I
had not been super familiar with that engine. Guy wanted to just run it, but I
wouldn't do it because that is where the engine has nearly no piston
movement for about 20 degrees. I made him pull the head and was super
glad I did. Guy had installed all four pistons reversed on the piston
pin. The large valve cut out was on the exhaust valve side rather than the
intake as was normal. The "tick" was the intake valve rubbing on the side of
the piston cutout! If we had started the engine it would have run for a few
seconds until the intake valves bent! We corrected the problem, and
thankfully the intakes were not even bent. Believe me we checked. The result
was a few hours lost rather than a destroyed engine.
We need to develop a data base here. So if you do a new build up,
or any build up for that matter, do us all a favor and put a dial torque
wrench on there and record your max turn over torque. Oh yea, do that
with the plugs out of course. On a rotary with plugs out you should get a
pretty even torque with no compression so if you get any spikes in there
you may want to pull it apart again before you do some serious
damage. Mistakes can happen even to very competent mechanics so it would
be a great help to everybody and might even save you some cash. Just a
good idea. My $0.02.
Bill Jepson
In a message dated 1/29/2008 7:32:20 AM Pacific Standard Time,
eanderson@carolina.rr.com writes:
I agree, Bob, there is no way that apex seal could
come out of its recess without that part of the rotor being broken
off. Those small parts can be illusive, particularly when you turn the
rotor upside down to place it on the e shaft - make certain you use good
Vaseline or halomire stickum {:>).
Ed
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