Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #41145
From: Joe Ewen <Jewen@comporium.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 17:29:57 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Hi Bob,
 
Your schematic for the 20B must be different than mine for the EC2-A3 20B.  My schematic shows and describes the relay as supplying power to the secondaries when the relay is not energized (see excerpt of manual attached.)  In this case the relay is closed until activated.  It looks like we have to refer each to our own manual or directly to Tracy, since systems that appear to have the same hardware may be wired for different functionality that would be program revision dependant.  At least in my case, I can not make a direct replacement of the electromechanical relay with the SSR style without a EC2 program revision.
 
Joe
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob White" <bob@bob-white.com>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 4:04 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2

> The schematic that I have for the 20B mechanical staging relay shows the
> same logic as the solid state relay.  The relay is open until activated,
> then voltage is applied to the secondaries (Point A).  Both relays have
> +12 V on one side of the sensing circuit (coil) and the other side is
> connected to pin 35 on the EC2.  A low on pin 35 should activate either
> relay.
>
> Bob's cable is wired with the solid state relay and 7 diodes.  I used
> the same Schotky diode as specified for the series diodes for the
> clamping diode from the secondary power to ground.
>
> Bob W.
>
>
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:58:24 -0500
> "Joe Ewen" <
Jewen@comporium.net> wrote:
>
>> I have an EC2-A3 20B,  this is not the latest revision that uses the MOSFET staging relay, rather the version that uses the electromagnetic relay.  When in injector test mode, I get firing pulses on all injectors.  In this EC2 configuration, the staging relay is closed when there is no signal to the relay, so the secondary fire also.  If you have the version with the MOSFET SSR relay, I would suspect the signal line to the relay works in the inverse with a corresponding change in the program logic from active low to active high on the staging relay channel.  Disconnecting the signal line from the MOSFET SSR (Tracy's drawing, terminal 1, connection A) and running a line from the terminal to ground should close the relay and the secondaries should fire as well as the primaries. 
>>
>> Joe
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Mark Steitle
>>   To: Rotary motors in aircraft
>>   Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 7:28 AM
>>   Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2
>>
>
>
>>
>>   Bob,
>>
>>   It is my understanding that the injector test mode works on the 2-rotor models only, not the 3-rotor model.   Something  to do with the injector staging relay used on the 3-rotor units.  If you hear the injectors click when you press the primer (store) button, then I would conclude that they're good.  Concerning the primaries, you could connect one at a time and press the store button and listen to see if it responds.  Then repeat the process for the other two.  I don't think this works on the secondaries. 
>>
>>   Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>   On Jan 13, 2008 12:04 AM, <
BMears9413@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>     Ok guys...my turn for help,
>>     I hooked up a real battery tonight. no smoke..no popped breakers...no blown fuses....EM2 lights right up and all temps are displaying accurate, along with pressures. EM2 shows NOP on the RPM until I power up the EC2, as it should. I tried the test mode of the injectors and the coils. I can hear the injectors when I use the primer function, but I get nothing on the continuous injection or the continuous coils. So mode 0 is working for prime, but I get nothing on mode 1 and 9. Its late, Im tired, and I havent checked anything with a test light yet. will start that tomorrow. All grounds are hooked up and grounding. All plugs in tight on the EM2. EC2, and control panel. Harness built by Bob White so I dont think anything is messed up there. Am I overlooking anything simple ?????
>>
>>     Bob Mears
>>     Supermarine Spitfire
>>
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