X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.178] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c4) with ESMTP id 2643586 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:26:33 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.146.178; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j4so3400556wah.1 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:25:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=PYtqusCuCNvabobmNv70V/0gGDGXk2C9lbIm5WIl6qo=; b=lT0X/FrR1lWsrLBM4uhMzredbizZtvzMh7lLnEw3o/1P2U3S8wVUDskJbcuaCW6CwUoH0axDzeeBpQRJl+goxPQ65HWJr3iAzz9mgrADnM20+mWYARbcP152EBYZCnEUoSBI2oP8ZdC9n2OV5o0c+DMf2BlVo4o6A6XZZdIHMGs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=F/sqNz87R4MAASocsAKoIboOSG0gPna9uJ/PTE0Pb1j64pOEB4qEsxn1+vCZCLRo4dpPicBvpmBUKlQWtN5+/U4gBX/FjbejLI/0S3Xw5pkkUSI20KqKKzxJnr+2ZzNyX3krFcIroIpPDT24xtayXhJKBnyGq6Q6bWfk9O0THAI= Received: by 10.143.162.8 with SMTP id p8mr2225272wfo.63.1200255954140; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:25:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.125.5 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:25:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1b4b137c0801131225t49aa479fi8b9ffb8fbb8a0636@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:25:54 -0500 From: "Tracy Crook" Sender: rwstracy@gmail.com To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: EC2 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10218_4885522.1200255954187" References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 04f8283f2cfa2253 ------=_Part_10218_4885522.1200255954187 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Bob M., ' What you have ' is answered by the installation guide that came with the unit. You apparently have the version with the Primer function but NOT the diagnostic modes. These are two very different things, the Primer is a functional mode for normal operations, not a diagnostic feature although it can be used for troubleshooting in some situations. FWIW, I am frequently criticized (sometimes quite harshly) for these changes in product specs. It is at these times that I can sympathize with Lycoming for making so few changes. If stability is more important than experimenting I always recommend installing a Lycoming or Continental. To repeat: All 6 injectors should operate in Primer mode. There is something wrong if less than all 6 fire. Also repeating: You should have this unit updated if it was made prior to having the diagnostics modes. There have been MANY features and improvements incorporated since that time. Always read the new installation guide which comes with all updates for changes to programming and wiring details. P.S. The charge for updating units is not the reason behind the changes which make updates desirable. I would gladly give up the charge in exchange for the time I spend on them. I'd rather be flying (or motorcycling, or working on my RV-8, or goofing off. or ......) From prior posts: The mechanical relay on the 20B version apparently works on some installations (Al G is still using it I think) but I strongly recommend changing to the solid state relay specified in the new installation guide and the schematic that I uploaded to the list several times. Tracy Crook (It's Sunday, why am I working? : ) On Jan 13, 2008 2:00 PM, wrote: > The primaries are firing in the prime mode..not the secondaires. The > actual manual that came with my EC2 doesn't have the troubles shooting guide > that shows how to run the diagnostic mode. I download your other manuals at > work and read them......when I should be working. > > Bob Mears > Supermarine Spitfire > > > > ------------------------------ > Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shapein the new year. > ------=_Part_10218_4885522.1200255954187 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Bob M.,
 
' What you have '  is answered by the installation guide that came with the unit.  You apparently have the version with the Primer function but NOT the diagnostic modes. These are two very different things, the Primer is a functional mode for normal operations, not a diagnostic feature although it can be used for troubleshooting in some situations.
 
FWIW,  I am frequently criticized (sometimes quite harshly) for these changes in product specs.   It is at these times that I can sympathize with Lycoming for making so few changes.  If stability is more important than experimenting I always recommend installing a Lycoming or Continental.
 
To repeat:  All 6 injectors should operate in Primer mode.  There is something wrong if less than all 6 fire. 
 
Also repeating:  You should have this unit updated if it was made prior to having the diagnostics modes.   There have been MANY features and improvements incorporated since that time.  Always read the new installation guide which comes with all updates for changes to programming and wiring details.    P.S.  The charge for updating units is not the reason behind the changes which make updates desirable.  I would gladly give up the charge in exchange for the time I spend on them.  I'd rather be flying (or motorcycling, or working on my RV-8, or goofing off. or ......)
 
From prior posts:   The mechanical relay on the 20B version apparently works on some installations (Al G is still using it I think) but I strongly recommend changing to the solid state relay specified in the new installation guide and the schematic that I uploaded to the list several times.
 
Tracy Crook  (It's Sunday, why am I working? : )

On Jan 13, 2008 2:00 PM, <BMears9413@aol.com> wrote:
The primaries are firing in the prime mode..not the secondaires. The actual manual that came with my EC2 doesn't have the troubles shooting guide that shows how to run the diagnostic mode. I download your other manuals at work and read them......when I should be working.
 
Bob Mears
Supermarine Spitfire



Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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