X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [66.219.56.248] (HELO qnsi-xch.qnsi.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.9) with ESMTP id 2092469 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 08 Jun 2007 21:18:16 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.219.56.248; envelope-from=bhughes@qnsi.net Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Return-Receipt-To: "Bobby J. Hughes" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7AA3C.9C90CDE6" Disposition-Notification-To: "Bobby J. Hughes" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Spark Plug Cleaning X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 20:19:28 -0600 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: Spark Plug Cleaning Thread-Index: AceqOrHv2ITnXRRGSl+GH3okNuUaCAAAUjXQ From: "Bobby J. Hughes" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7AA3C.9C90CDE6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed, =20 I wish you would test 4 of these. :) If Lynn is correct about high power spark then these might be the ultimate solution. Looks like 3 time the energy of our standard LS1 coils.=20 =20 http://www.msdignition.com/coil_blaster_19_8245.htm =20 Bobby =20 ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 7:07 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Spark Plug Cleaning Here is somebody who pretty much sums up what my research has turned up on Lead solvents - the only one I found was nitric acid - which I will pass on {:>) . =20 There really is no lead solvent. Any chemical that will desolve lead will likely disolve YOU. Years ago, before people knew better, shooters used mercury. This amalgamated with the lead, and the material could be brushed out. The only problem: mercurey will make you crazy, then dead!! A good non dangerous to you, and non damaging to the bore cleaner is the Lewis or Hopies lead remover kit. You can also buy a "lead remover cloth" at most gun shops. Cut this into patches and run them down the bore. =20 =20 Ed =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Owen =20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft =20 Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 8:47 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Spark Plug Cleaning Ed, =20 There is an electro-chemical process shooters use to remove lead from a gun barrel which might work if this is an elemental lead deposit. Take a look at: http://www.outers-guncare.com/products/chemicals/foul_out_system.aspx=20 =20 Jeff Owen -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 1:11 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Spark Plug Cleaning =09 =09 Getting around to see what can be done about the lead fouling sparkplugs causing the infamous "SAG". 1st experiment was to place the used spark plugs in a 30% solution of Hydrogen Peroxide. I did that and place the plugs and solution in an ultrasonic cleaner, turned it on and left it on for 1 hour. =20 It appeared to clean everything off the plug - but, the lead. So far the only chemical my research has indicated would dissolved metallic lead is Nitric Acid. Nope, not going to try that, I'll stick with buying new plugs. =20 But, thought I would let folks know of the results. I was really hoping the ultrasonic vibration would shake the lead crystals off the ceramic cone of the plug - but either the idea is flawed or the small jewelry cleaning size ultrasonic generator is simply not powerful enough. =20 Ed =20 =20 Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com =09 http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7AA3C.9C90CDE6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Ed,
 
I wish you would test 4 of these. :) If = Lynn is=20 correct about high power spark then these might be the ultimate = solution.=20 Looks like 3 time the energy of our standard LS1 coils. =
 
http://www.m= sdignition.com/coil_blaster_19_8245.htm
 
Bobby

 
From: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 7:07 PM
To: = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Spark Plug=20 Cleaning

Here is somebody who pretty much sums up what my = research=20 has turned up on Lead solvents - the only one I found was nitric acid - = which I=20 will pass on {:>)
.
 
There really is no lead solvent. Any chemical that = will=20 desolve lead will likely disolve YOU. Years ago, before people knew = better,=20 shooters used mercury. This amalgamated with the lead, and the material = could be=20 brushed out. The only problem: mercurey will make you crazy, then=20 dead!!

A good non dangerous to you, and non damaging to the bore = cleaner=20 is the Lewis or Hopies lead remover kit. You can also buy a "lead = remover cloth"=20 at most gun shops. Cut this into patches and run them down the = bore.
 
 
Ed
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeff Owen=20
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 = 8:47 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Spark = Plug=20 Cleaning

Ed,
 
There is an electro-chemical process shooters use to remove = lead from a=20 gun barrel which might work if this is an elemental lead = deposit.  Take a=20 look at: http://www.outers-guncare.com/products/chemicals/foul_out_system.as= px 
 
Jeff=20 Owen
-----Original Message-----
From: = Rotary motors=20 in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Ed=20 Anderson
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 1:11 PM
To: = Rotary=20 motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Spark Plug=20 Cleaning

Getting around to see what can be done about = the lead=20 fouling sparkplugs  causing the infamous "SAG".  1st = experiment=20 was to place the used spark plugs in a 30% solution of Hydrogen=20 Peroxide.  I did that and place the plugs and solution in an = ultrasonic=20 cleaner, turned it on and left it on for 1 hour.
 
It appeared to clean everything off the plug = - but,=20 the lead.  So far the only chemical my research has indicated = would=20 dissolved metallic lead is Nitric Acid.  Nope, not going to try = that,=20 I'll stick with buying new plugs.
 
But, thought I would let folks know of the=20 results.  I was really hoping the ultrasonic vibration would = shake the=20 lead crystals off the ceramic cone of the plug - but either the idea = is=20 flawed or the small jewelry cleaning size ultrasonic generator is = simply not=20 powerful enough.
 
Ed
 
 
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary=20 Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.comhttp:/= /members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW
http://www.dmack.net/mazda= /index.html
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