X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 30 [X] Return-Path: Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.192.81] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with ESMTP id 2017019 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:12:31 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.192.81; envelope-from=techwelding@comcast.net Received: from dell (c-69-139-116-211.hsd1.ky.comcast.net[69.139.116.211]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20070430051138m11005iedre>; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 05:11:38 +0000 Message-ID: <000601c78ae5$ed15c800$d3748b45@dell> From: "Ed Klepeis" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: oil coolers Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:10:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Dear Al The new core mat. that I use for my coolers is just like oem mazda high pressure and same overall size. I can make them wider if need be. My question is there that much of an advantage in the oil/water over the oil/air cooler being that there is more lines to hook up with the oil/water system. thanks for suggestions. Regards Ed Klepeis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Gietzen" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 12:28 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: oil coolers What is your opinion on oil coolers air/oil or water/oil. I know art is running a water cooler oil cooler and it works fine my concerns are if you should lose water cooling there goes the whole system water and oil. At least if you have your oil cooling system air cooled you have some cooling of the eng to get you safely on the ground. Also less lines to hook up without the water going to the oil cooler.I have a meeting with my neighbor Waltrip the nascar fellows cheif mech to talk this subject over will be interesting to see what the nasca boys say and use. I can build it either air/oil or water/oil. What are the opinions out there.thank Regards Ed Klepeis Ed; Depending on the installation, there can be some good reasons, and advantages, to oil-water heat exchangers. I had taken a serious look at that. What I found was that the available oil-water coolers were designed based on typical piston engines where the oil flow rates are much lower than in a rotary. I think Fluidyne has some of the best ones, but coolers sized for the heat load had oil side pressure drop that was prohibitive for full flow on the rotary. So if you are designing an oil-water exchanger, keep that in mind. Al -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html