X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 10 [X] Return-Path: Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.244] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with ESMTP id 1989584 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:55:33 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.132.244; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c34so2126260anc for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:54:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Fr54AEPsZQpPtI2GpgC/xbTkyCc75J7GoVtLg9rmsFCfaJymXj+kMeiuiKWK4eMUmJHrDNIh8rmNrlnOJzYQVMq+4gtO1EDXGyfZ/6FG/RJ8BvYBD1FMFK4cOR5Pys2KKcufQ//4he6ag3Iza4HRx2iIdUxWBDYVGe3vSMFkPdc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JbsOz5T9vbnoQELOJ5rnxgJ/6xomt9ZBlL/W9QfaSrCAAFhMZZ4vkhTC3CS1yhVvmPqydEWsUkQFZVnXX6Y7B5j4hD9AwsDcRP7QSjXHpA5MsiTpy/8Zwd9y1L+MKwoDNNIogDC3ZgstAEyqs/xe6XjFve0o+FXOjtwb5zRt/SE= Received: by 10.100.46.19 with SMTP id t19mr336548ant.1176817708002; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.173.2 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5cf132c0704170648i3c2e15cn4ed290be9323c466@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:48:27 -0500 From: "Mark Steitle" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Norton Drone Engine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_89086_20758269.1176817707921" References: ------=_Part_89086_20758269.1176817707921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I couldn't agree more. So what happened to all those Sachs rotary snowmobile engines? Mark S. On 4/17/07, Russell Duffy wrote: > > "The AR682R aero-engine has been developed to power UAVs which require up > to 120 bhp. It is based on the proven AR642 core engine which was designed > to meet UK CAA / European JAR-E and US FAA FAR-33 certifications for *manned > flight*." > > Too bad someone here doesn't have connections with their sales > department. Their engines appear to be ready to bolt on and go fly. They > even have dynafocal mounts. > > Hi Mark, > > Yeah, it just eats my heart out that these engines exists, and we can't > buy them them :-( > > I imagine there are a number of reasons, with liability being on the top > of the list as usual. A close second is probably avoiding the hassle of > dealing with individuals. I'm sure it's much easier to sell pallets full of > these to some gov contractor, who has their own technical support group. > I'm also guessing that it's more profitable to sell to gov contract > customers than homebuilders. > > Maybe what we need is a third party company. The UAV folks could sell > their pallets of engines to this company, and support only that company. > The new company "Mark's HomeDrone Engine Supply" would would then "convert" > these engines for use with manned aircraft, and sell them to homebuilders. > Then again, the engines may be 30 grand apiece, and have a TBO of 250 > hours... > > Rusty (it's just not fair...) > ------=_Part_89086_20758269.1176817707921 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I couldn't agree more.  So what happened to all those Sachs rotary snowmobile engines? 
 
Mark S.

 
On 4/17/07, Russell Duffy <rusty@radrotary.com> wrote:
"The AR682R aero-engine has been developed to power UAVs which require up to 120 bhp. It is based on the proven AR642 core engine which was designed to meet UK CAA / European JAR-E and US FAA FAR-33 certifications for manned flight."
 
Too bad someone here doesn't have connections with their sales department.  Their engines appear to be ready to bolt on and go fly.  They even have dynafocal mounts. 
 
Hi Mark,
 
Yeah, it just eats my heart out that these engines exists, and we can't buy them them :-(  
 
I imagine there are a number of reasons, with liability being on the top of the list as usual.  A close second is probably avoiding the hassle of dealing with individuals.  I'm sure it's much easier to sell pallets full of these to some gov contractor, who has their own technical support group.  I'm also guessing that it's more profitable to sell to gov contract customers than homebuilders.  
 
Maybe what we need is a third party company.  The UAV folks could sell their pallets of engines to this company, and support only that company.  The new company "Mark's HomeDrone Engine Supply" would would then "convert" these engines for use with manned aircraft, and sell them to homebuilders.  Then again, the engines may be 30 grand apiece, and have a TBO of 250 hours...
 
Rusty (it's just not fair...)      

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